Merle,

Now you're having some doubts that diet and its sufficiency is often relative 
to the person, their weight, their build, their "life-style"?  I myself don't 
have any fixed ideas about it.

But if you think that intensive retreat Zen practice is a low-calorie endeavor, 
you show again that you have never practiced in our way (we knew that, and 
appreciate the good reasons).  Not everybody else gets around to it, either.

It's a cold climate on the high mountains of the central range of central 
Taiwan.  I bet he had to keep warm by burning calories that way, too, when he 
was away from the cook-stove, outdoors.

So, I would guess my old Shih-fu ate heartily of his rice and cooked leaves; he 
always ate that way on our retreats together!  On Ch'an retreats, we don't hide 
our teacher away, as in Japan: he does what we do, where we do it.  That in 
itself, even by itself, is always, always a teaching, no matter what the task, 
what the endeavor.

(He sat most of our sits with us, too, except when he was in the room during 
Interview.  A true Grandmother Hen, watching over us, and used the stick well).

So much for this thread.

--Joe

> Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
> 
> and they did not sit around gazing at their navels they were required to do 
> hard labour.




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