It sure seem so...
--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> Edgar has just become the FOX News of the Zen Forum.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012, 13:07
> Subject: Re: [Zen] the zen spirit
>
>
> Â
> Merle,
>
> OK, please answer a simple question and we will see. :-)
>
> Do you believe any human being could subsist only on yam leaves and rice for
> 6 years or do you agree with me it's simply impossible?
>
> The fate of your immortal soul and entry into the Buddhahood realm rests on a
> correct and honest answer to this simple question!
> :-)
>
> I challenge everyone on this group who is at all interested in the truth and
> who understands that belief in falsehood is illusion and thus that truth is
> essential to realization to give us THEIR answer to this question.
>
>
>
> Edgar
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 22, 2012, at 1:44 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
>
> Â
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Â edgar..what do you take me for?..a fool..merle
> >
> >
> >Â
> >Merle,
> >
> >
> >Get real and use your brain Merle! It's not the number of calories but the
> >necessary nutrients for life are missing.
> >
> >
> >Hot water? Well I like that myself (I usually add several spices and
> >sometimes lemon juice) but I hope you don't think anyone can subsist on it?
> >
> >
> >Edgar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Merle Lester wrote:
> >
> >Â
> >>
> >>
> >>Â because he did no heavy labour all day he needed less food...
> >>Â how long did he live?...
> >>plain hot water is great!...Â
> >>does not believe in the principles of nutrition  and you just ran with
> >>that joe?..
> >>what?...
> >>where is your zen spirit?.
> >>.merle
> >>
> >>
> >>Â
> >>Anyone who tries to convince you he lived on wild yam leaves and rice for 6
> >>years begins to sound like the oriental typical guru putting one over on
> >>gullible disciples.
> >>
> >>
> >>How much did you pay him total for 'enlightening' you?
> >>
> >>
> >>Edgar
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Nov 20, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Joe wrote:
> >>
> >>Â
> >>>Edgar,
> >>>
> >>>Negative.
> >>>
> >>>I suggest a reading of Ch'an Master Sheng's autobiography.
> >>>
> >>>When he taught us, he would often urge us to eat "properly" in our daily
> >>>lives as we practice. But he added that he "does not believe in the
> >>>principles of nutrition". That was always very interesting to me, but I
> >>>never questioned him in detail about what he believed (or followed)
> >>>instead. I was already a vegetarian before I met him.
> >>>
> >>>On the veracity of his story of his cultivating the "Taiwan wild mountain
> >>>potato", I had no reason to doubt him. He mentioned that this potato is
> >>>different from what we call potatoes in the West. And I suspect it is not
> >>>related to our Solanaceous plants, which I think are only indigenous to S.
> >>>Amer., and not Asia. So the leaves of his plants may have been
> >>>differently nutritious, indeed!, compared with those of our Deadly
> >>>Nightshades.
> >>>
> >>>In fact, it is a type of Yam.
> >>>
> >>>I must assume that he also had Tea; maybe he did not mention it because
> >>>it's like an Englishman taking tea "for granted" as a commodity, except
> >>>more so!, for a Chinese! ;-)
> >>>
> >>>But, ...he taught us on Retreat to drink plain hot water, and we had urns
> >>>of it: I personally called this "Sheng Yen Tea". So, maybe he did not
> >>>have any tea at all during his 6-year retreat. It's possible that he may
> >>>have found Ginseng root on the mountain, however, too.
> >>>
> >>>He mentions the Yam potato leaves several times in his auto-bio, and in
> >>>fact, there is an entire chapter (Chapt. 11) there, called "Wild Potato
> >>>Leaves"... .
> >>>
> >>>For your reading, here is the reference to Sheng Yen's best-known
> >>>autobiography in English. The book is quite clear about his diet on the
> >>>mountain:
> >>>
> >>>Sheng Yen; FOOTPRINTS IN THE SNOW; THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A CHINESE BUDDHIST
> >>>MONK, 2008, Doubleday.
> >>>
> >>>You can also see the Amazon page:
> >>>
> >>>http://www.amazon.com/Footprints-Snow-Autobiography-Chinese-Buddhist/dp/B003JTHRT6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1353436592&sr=8-3&keywords=footprints+in+the+snow
> >>>
> >>>Best,
> >>>
> >>>--Joe
> >>>
> >>>> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I suggest you use the same investigative intelligence you used to debunk
> >>>> the hurricane Sandy photos to debunk your teacher's story.
> >>>>
> >>>> No human being could live on only wild potato leaves and rice for 6
> >>>> years. That's quite obvious.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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