Mike, What's your answer and why are you afraid to tell us?
EDgar On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:34 AM, mike brown wrote: > > >Do you believe any human being could subsist only on yam leaves and rice for > >6 years or do you agree with me it's simply impossible? > > And the new Donald Trump.. > > > From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012, 13:07 > Subject: Re: [Zen] the zen spirit > > > Merle, > > OK, please answer a simple question and we will see. :-) > > Do you believe any human being could subsist only on yam leaves and rice for > 6 years or do you agree with me it's simply impossible? > > The fate of your immortal soul and entry into the Buddhahood realm rests on a > correct and honest answer to this simple question! > :-) > > I challenge everyone on this group who is at all interested in the truth and > who understands that belief in falsehood is illusion and thus that truth is > essential to realization to give us THEIR answer to this question. > > > > Edgar > > > > On Nov 22, 2012, at 1:44 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > >> >> >> >> edgar..what do you take me for?..a fool..merle >> >> >> Merle, >> >> Get real and use your brain Merle! It's not the number of calories but the >> necessary nutrients for life are missing. >> >> Hot water? Well I like that myself (I usually add several spices and >> sometimes lemon juice) but I hope you don't think anyone can subsist on it? >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Merle Lester wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> because he did no heavy labour all day he needed less food... >>> how long did he live?... >>> plain hot water is great!... >>> does not believe in the principles of nutrition and you just ran with that >>> joe?.. >>> what?... >>> where is your zen spirit?. >>> .merle >>> >>> >>> Anyone who tries to convince you he lived on wild yam leaves and rice for 6 >>> years begins to sound like the oriental typical guru putting one over on >>> gullible disciples. >>> >>> How much did you pay him total for 'enlightening' you? >>> >>> Edgar >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 20, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Joe wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Edgar, >>>> >>>> Negative. >>>> >>>> I suggest a reading of Ch'an Master Sheng's autobiography. >>>> >>>> When he taught us, he would often urge us to eat "properly" in our daily >>>> lives as we practice. But he added that he "does not believe in the >>>> principles of nutrition". That was always very interesting to me, but I >>>> never questioned him in detail about what he believed (or followed) >>>> instead. I was already a vegetarian before I met him. >>>> >>>> On the veracity of his story of his cultivating the "Taiwan wild mountain >>>> potato", I had no reason to doubt him. He mentioned that this potato is >>>> different from what we call potatoes in the West. And I suspect it is not >>>> related to our Solanaceous plants, which I think are only indigenous to S. >>>> Amer., and not Asia. So the leaves of his plants may have been differently >>>> nutritious, indeed!, compared with those of our Deadly Nightshades. >>>> >>>> In fact, it is a type of Yam. >>>> >>>> I must assume that he also had Tea; maybe he did not mention it because >>>> it's like an Englishman taking tea "for granted" as a commodity, except >>>> more so!, for a Chinese! ;-) >>>> >>>> But, ...he taught us on Retreat to drink plain hot water, and we had urns >>>> of it: I personally called this "Sheng Yen Tea". So, maybe he did not have >>>> any tea at all during his 6-year retreat. It's possible that he may have >>>> found Ginseng root on the mountain, however, too. >>>> >>>> He mentions the Yam potato leaves several times in his auto-bio, and in >>>> fact, there is an entire chapter (Chapt. 11) there, called "Wild Potato >>>> Leaves"... . >>>> >>>> For your reading, here is the reference to Sheng Yen's best-known >>>> autobiography in English. The book is quite clear about his diet on the >>>> mountain: >>>> >>>> Sheng Yen; FOOTPRINTS IN THE SNOW; THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A CHINESE BUDDHIST >>>> MONK, 2008, Doubleday. >>>> >>>> You can also see the Amazon page: >>>> >>>> http://www.amazon.com/Footprints-Snow-Autobiography-Chinese-Buddhist/dp/B003JTHRT6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1353436592&sr=8-3&keywords=footprints+in+the+snow >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> --Joe >>>> >>>> > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I suggest you use the same investigative intelligence you used to debunk >>>> > the hurricane Sandy photos to debunk your teacher's story. >>>> > >>>> > No human being could live on only wild potato leaves and rice for 6 >>>> > years. That's quite obvious. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
