Bill!, Carl,

Old Richard Alpert -- as one "Ram Das" -- wrote GRIST FOR THE MILL, which I 
call 'Mist for the Grill'.

Spoonerisms may be my ken, but somehow this put me in mind of Edgar's attempted 
philosophical eructations, too.

I'd take them with a grain of salt, too, if that would not be even WORSE for my 
blood-pressure than just the eructations alone.

Drinking relatively pure H2O distillate, I assure you, here.

Nasdrovia!,

--Joe

> "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
> Carl,
> 
> I started to respond to Edgar's post below with a detailed account of how it 
> uses rhetoric and sophistry to present a pseudo-zen perspective of the 
> relationships between 'realization', suffering, "natural design of the web of 
> life" and of course zen.
> 
> It was just too much for me to take on this morning.
> 
> Just BEWARE of Edgar's posts on anything like this to do with zen.  They are 
> usually at best not an orthodox representation of Zen Buddhist thought and 
> therefore misleading; and at worst are a gruesome distortion that is in fact 
> completely contradictory and therefore absolutely detrimental to someone 
> attempting to get a clear picture of Zen.




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