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what is it that you seek?.. merle How do you reach the state of function and capacity? /\ zendervish --- In [email protected], Merle Lester wrote: > > > >  zendervish... please clarify this?...what are you trying to ask?... is > there anything i do not know?... i do not know that i know ..merle > >  > Merle > > Is there anything you don't know? > > A question? > > How do you reach the state of function and capacity? > > /\ > > zendervish > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > >  > >  yes the cults..dangerous..those who know..do not > > cult......ivate....merle > >  > > Dear Joe > > > > That's him, Salik . . . a real madman. We attended a Zikr gathering with > > the Naqshbandi and aferwards there was this middle easter restauant > > downstairs, Saturday night, and they had belly dancers and corny music > > going . . . so when we come downstairs with all the Sufis, who are pretty > > conservation, Salik hears the music and goes into Sama and wheels into the > > middle of the restaurant with Jerrahi hat on and robes . . . wildly dancing > > and carrying on. > > > > Also, Salik and I assisted some people getting out of a cult, but he was > > the real hero . . . this cult got real involved in the sexy business and an > > inner esoteric school of Mary Magdalene . . . you can figure the rest. A > > friend of mind stayed there for a while in his old age. > > > > /\ > > > > zendervish > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" wrote: > > > > > > Salik, > > > > > > Salik very kindly wrote: > > > "A real madman of devotion, love and gratitude." > > > > > > I love it! Sounds like a fine fellow. > > > > > > I think I might know this (that!) Salik!, Salik! I think he was/is? a > > > close associate of Shahabuddhin Lesh. A tallish skinny fellow, eyes a > > > little sunken, yellowish short hair (in 1973-74-75) and who smoked > > > cigarettes, even inside the Cathedral!, where it was Verboten, on our > > > Sufi Dancing nights. He said he smoked them "in order to keep from > > > becoming too pure". Maybe it's the same principle as practiced in the > > > construction of Islamic Mosque tile-mosaics, in which an obvious > > > "mistake" is always committed intentionally so as not to offend Allah, > > > and left in full view. > > > > > > It was Salik who often did the Call to Prayer once we were all assembled > > > there on Wednesday evenings after we had moved HUNDREDS of wood chairs > > > out of the 100-foot space under the dome arching over the cathedral's > > > "Crossing", where the Transcept intersects the Nave-Apse axis of the > > > building. That Crossing is the largest of ANY Cathedral's in the world: > > > 100 x 100 ft. A record. And Saint John's is also the largest Cathedral > > > in the world (Saint Peter's in Rome is a larger building, but it is *not* > > > a Cathedral: it is a "Basilica"). > > > > > > Salik would put his open hands behind the ears and solemnly project the > > > Call up into the rafters, bringing in some *really* sharp and arresting > > > tones: Wow! It was always a privilege to hear him and see him do this, > > > belting out the sounds up into the stone "rafters" there inside the > > > Christian cathedral. You know the acoustics in that place: just amazing! > > > Very lively. And Salik never let the echo come back and step-on a new > > > syllable: he had the timing DOWN. Definitely a musician. He played the > > > drum during our dancing, and was a natural at it. An amazing guy. > > > > > > I'm so glad you're at ZCLA. I know you'll have great practice there. I > > > wish you very, very strong practice. Many great Sesshin, and powerful > > > ones. May they open up for everybody there the full flower of our > > > original face. > > > > > > Many blessings, and as my Ch'an Shih-fu used to say, "Don't be in a > > > hurry!" And, "just fall right in line with how they practice, there". > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > PS I'm sorry to sound so ignorant of Gurdjief's ways, earlier, but I am! > > > But I really don't need to express uninformed opinions as I did. Toward > > > the One! That's for sure, --J. > > > > > > > "salik888" wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Joe > > > > > > > > I spent some time with a friend and fellow Shaykh in the Halvati > > > > Jerrahi Tariqa, Shaykh Salik Schwartz. A real madman of devotion, love > > > > and gratitude. He knew Lex Hixon well, was with Shaykh Muzzafer Effendi > > > > for years. > > > > > > > > I just missed meeting Sensei Bernie by a couple of weeks at the Zen > > > > Center of Los Angeles, of which I have just joined. I have been at the > > > > Gurdjieff Foundation studying for about 5 years. Sensei Bernie was here > > > > and apparently there was quite a bit of talk about the new book, The > > > > Dude and the Zen Master. > > > > > > > > I am back to sit with a Sangah, although I have been sitting and > > > > working with the Gurdjieff Foundation, studying the ideas and text of > > > > Gurdjieff's All and Everything. > > > > > > > > But, always "sitting." Even during my sitting with Gurdjieff Foundation > > > > I sit zazen. (sitting is different in Gurdjieff Tradition, more Taoist) > > > > > > > > > >
