Bill!,

Using Christianity as a working example to me, and trying to generalize to 
other Wisdom traditions, I'd say that the Buddhist teachings are not dogma, as 
much as doctrine.

Could you check me on that?  You have good and admirable facility with 
dictionaries.

The doctrine in Buddhism is inseparable from the teaching of Buddhadharma.  
What is taught is doctrine.  And practice.

The Zen school, as we all know, however, is NOT the Teaching School.  Regarding 
Zen, we all remember fondly that:

"This is a special transmission of Mind, OUTSIDE the Scriptures, not dependent 
on words and letters."

And yet, if we consider the origin of the Ch'an sect, it grew from people who 
awakened under the influence of Buddhadharma, which includes all the doctrine 
thereof ...and little dogma.  If I'm using my words right.  Bill!, will you 
check up on this?  To your satisfaction, I mean?  ;-)

--Joe

> "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
> Mike,
> 
> I'll split the difference with you.  I'll call the Eight-fold Path not just 
> dogma but Buddhist dogma.
> 
> I thought the term 'Buddha Dharma' and Buddhism meant the same things.  How 
> do you see them as different?
> 
> ...Bill!




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