Edgar, I disagree with your definitions.
You can be arrogant and still speak the truth; and you can be an authority and still speak falsely. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Siska, > > The difference between arrogance and authority is whether the message is > true... > > Anyway I wasn't referring to you but to those who speak here as if they speak > FOR Zen without knowing what they speak is false... I'm surprised you'd > consider yourself in that group. > > Edgar > > > > On May 18, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > such arrogance edgar!..the makings of a "superman"...merle > > > > > > Siska, > > > > Yes. I continually learn from the 'teachers' on this group what NOT to > > believe and what NOT to do! > > :-) > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > On May 18, 2013, at 5:15 AM, siska wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Hi Bill, > >> > >> I'd say we all are teachers when others learn from us, and we are students > >> whenever we are open to learn from others. > >> > >> So, like it or not, I think you're always a teacher ;-) > >> > >> Siska > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from Samsung tablet > >> > >> Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > >> > >> Merle, > >> > >> We are teachers if we have a student. We are students if we have a teacher. > >> > >> I was a student for many years and even was a teacher for a short time. At > >> this point in my life I am neither a teacher or a student. > >> > >> ...Bill! > >> > >> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Â > >> > Â bill...are we not all teachers?,,,and all students?..who are we if not > >> > teacher and student rolled into one..?..merle > >> > Â > >> > Merle, > >> > > >> > I'm not a zen teacher, certainly don't feel qualified to make up a koan > >> > nor to work with anyone on an existing koan. I'll have to pass on this > >> > one. > >> > > >> > ...Bill! > >> > > >> > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > yes so get cracking ...let's have the koan!!!!!!!!!! merle > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ÃÂ > >> > > Merle and Mike, > >> > > > >> > > Okay, this story is labeled a 'parable' which as I said is not a koan > >> > > - although could serve as the basis for a koan. > >> > > > >> > > ...Bill! > >> > > > >> > > --- In [email protected], uerusuboyo@ wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Merle,<br/><br/>With pleasure!<br/><br/>18. A > >> > > > Parable<br/><br/>Buddha told a parable in sutra:<br/><br/>A man > >> > > > traveling across a field encountered a tiger. He fled, the tiger > >> > > > after him. Coming to a precipice, he caught hold of the root of a > >> > > > wild vine and swung himself down over the edge. The tiger sniffed at > >> > > > him from above. Trembling, the man looked down to where, far below, > >> > > > another tiger was waiting to eat him. Only the vine sustained > >> > > > him.<br/><br/>Two mice, one white and one black, little by little > >> > > > started to gnaw away the vine. The man saw a luscious strawberry > >> > > > near him. Grasping the vine with one hand, he plucked the strawberry > >> > > > with the other. How sweet it tasted!<br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! > >> > > > Mail for iPad > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
