Hi Bill,
You always insisted that there are differences in zen, Zen, Chan. I can
accept all of that, because all of that is inclusive in Chan. They are
all description of the same one fundamental thing, the universal life
force and wisdom and all of its manifestations.
JM
On 5/19/2013 6:52 AM, Bill! wrote:
JMJM and Edgar,
I don't know about Chan, but zen is a human practice that assists in
balancing the interplay between Human Nature and Buddha Nature. I went
on to describe it in more detail in a recent post.
It is not everything. It is a practice. There are human activities
that are not part of that practice.
...Bill!
--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> JMJM,
>
> That's my understanding too. That's how I use the word though I
usually refer to it as Zen.
>
> It's not something confined to any sect, temple or teacher though it
may be recognized and taught therein.
>
> Chan or Zen is just a name for the fundamental reality of the world.
But the name is not the reality, it just references the reality...
>
> Edgar
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2013, at 9:08 AM, 覺妙精明 （JMJM） wrote:
>
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Chan is the absolute and most fundamental dharma. Chan is the
essence of all and everything.
> > Chan can be expressed with any kind of word or no word at all.
> >
> > JM
> >
> > On 5/19/2013 1:00 AM, uerusuboyo@... wrote:
> >>
> >> Would it be fair to say that Cha'n still retains more of its
original Indian Mahayana flavour than Japanese Zen? At least in it's
outward expression, if not in its stories. I can almost smell the
incense from here! ( meant respectfully).
> >>
> >> With cheeks together, on a chair,
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
> >>
> >> From: Joe <desert_woodworker@...>;
> >> To: <[email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>>;
> >> Subject: [Zen] Re: What is Enlightenment?
> >> Sent: Sun, May 19, 2013 5:26:17 AM
> >>
> >>
> >> JMJM,
> >>
> >> Well done. Well expressed. Be well. Please take good care.
> >>
> >> Hands together, and with bow,
> >>
> >> --Joe
> >>
> >> > <chan.jmjm@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Everything we truly seek belongs to heart, i.e. peace, happiness,
> >> > etc.
> >> >
> >> > Enhance the sensitivity of our heart. Accept all as is. Surpass
the realm of desire, form and formlessness. Sync with the universal
wisdom through our heart is the key to enlightenment.
> >> >
> >> > with palms together,
> >> > jm
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
