Mike, LOL! So you are now channeling Buddha for me?
Are you so naive that you don't know you can find at least one internet site that supports anything? Did you do a Whois lookup to confirm Buddha himself is the webmaster of that site? Geeez, and you lecture me on Right Thinking?!!! Once again I am right and you are wrong..... Right speech is NOT coddling the emotionally needy. Right speech is saying what is true even when it rubs the defensive ego the wrong way - as in your case presently.... Edgar On May 23, 2013, at 10:42 AM, uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > Edgar, > > You teaching me anything about Buddhism would be like Stalin teaching Gandhi > about compassion. Right Speech isn't always just about just telling the truth > (besides, do you have proof he was a pedophile or just speculating?). Here, > I'll let Buddha himself teach you: > > > > http://www.suanmokkh.org/archive/rtspch1.htm > WELL-SPOKEN WORDS ARE SAMMAVACA > > Bhikkhus, words having these five characteristics are words well-spoken, are > not words badly-spoken, are blameless words that the wise do not criticize. > What are these five characteristics? The five are: > > spoken at the proper time > spoken in line with the truth > spoken gently > spoken beneficially > spoken with a friendly heart > > Bhikkhus, speech having these five characteristics are words well-spoken, are > not words badly-spoken, are blameless words that the wise do not criticize. > > > Edgar, you've just been schooled once more.. > > Mike > > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > From: Edgar Owen <edgaro...@att.net>; > To: <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>; > Subject: Re: [Zen] The False I and the Real I - Eckhart Tolle > Sent: Thu, May 23, 2013 12:41:28 PM > > > Mike, > > > That was right speech. > > A little lesson in Buddhism for you. > > Right speech (and thought) have to do with telling the truth, not coddling > the emotionally needy... > > Edgar > > > On May 22, 2013, at 11:28 PM, uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > >> >> >> Edgar, >> >> You can't preach "Right Thoughts" and then completely stomp over 'Right >> Speech'... >> >> Mike >> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >> >> From: Edgar Owen <edgaro...@att.net>; >> To: <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>; >> Subject: Re: [Zen] The False I and the Real I - Eckhart Tolle >> Sent: Wed, May 22, 2013 11:29:34 AM >> >> >> Bill, >> >> >> Mr. Rogers was one of the most smarmy, saccharine, moronic, comic book >> Christian likely pedophiles to ever defile US TV screens... >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> On May 22, 2013, at 4:47 AM, Bill! wrote: >> >>> >>> Merle, >>> >>> >>> Mister Roger's Neighborhood was a children's program that was very popular >>> in the USA for a long, long time. He is very kind and gentle teaching kids >>> about all kinds of things. Here's an episode where he talks about friends. >>> It's about 30-minutes long but you only have to watch about the first 3 or >>> 4 minutes to get the idea of what he was like. >>> >>> Mister Rogers >>> >>> ...Bill! >>> >>> >>> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >  an all round american "let me do it right for you"!... merle >>> >  >>> > Merle, >>> > >>> > Fred Rogers >>> > www.imdb.com >>> > Fred McFeely Rogers was an American educator, Presbyterian minister, >>> > songwriter, author, and television host. Rogers was most famous for >>> > creating and hosting Mister Rogers' Neighborhood, which featured his >>> > gentle, soft-spoken personality and directness to his audiences. >>> > en.wikipedia.org >>> > Lived: Mar 20, 1928 - Feb 27, 2003 (age 74) >>> > Height: 6' (1.83 m) >>> > Spouse: Sara Byrd (1952 - 2003) >>> > >>> > ...Bill! >>> > >>> > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester wrote: >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >  bill..i do not know who mr. rogers is...enlighten me ,,merle >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >  >>> > > Merle, >>> > > >>> > > Did Eckhart Tolle's demeanor remind you of Mr. Rogers as it did me? >>> > > >>> > > ...Bill! >>> > > >>> > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@ wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >  thank you bill.... a good start for the day... i watched the >>> > > > video and found it very beneficial... merle >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >  >>> > > > Below is a link to a 15-minute video by Eckhart Tolle entitled The >>> > > > False I and the Real I.  I've read a few things from Tolle >>> > > > but have never seen a video by him before.  I would describe >>> > > > him as the the Mr. Rogers of New-Age Spiritualism.  >>> > > > If I remember correctly Bonnie, one of our new member, speaks highly >>> > > > of Tolle. >>> > > > >>> > > > It was interesting to me because he stated the ego is only the ego if >>> > > > you're unaware of it, and as soon as you become aware of it it's not >>> > > > the ego anymore. That corresponds somewhat to zen in that the self is >>> > > > only problematic when you think it's real and are not aware that it >>> > > > is an illusion. He also goes on to say that just recognizing the ego >>> > > > doesn't solve all your problems. He says that there is a kind of >>> > > > momentum built up that you just can't stop immediately.  I >>> > > > think what he calls 'momentum' could be the same as what Buddhism and >>> > > > zen (as I understand it) calls 'attachment'. >>> > > > >>> > > > Anyway all this is similar to the experiencing Buddha Nature and >>> > > > realizing the self is an illusion. That experience doesn't mean you >>> > > > do not have any more work left to do to continue to weaken and >>> > > > finally dissolve the attachment you have to this illusory self - even >>> > > > after you recognize that it is illusory. >>> > > > >>> > > > Also, you might also see how the same or very similar teachings of >>> > > > zen are presented in a more modern dialog. >>> > > > >>> > > > If you'd like to see this video, and I recommend it, you can find it >>> > > > on YouTube at: The False I and the Real I . >>> > > > >>> > > > Enjoy!  ...Bill! >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> >> >> > > >
