Bill!, Edgar, Mike, It's Mike who deserves credit on that score, Bill!.
I also give him credit, there, and I add my voice -- however unskilled -- to his. And yours. with Cheers, --Joe PS (I leave most of the "paper-trail" quoted below, so you can check proper attribution). > "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > Edgar and Joe, > > Since I'm not a Buddhist I don't use the Eightfold Path as a guide for my > conduct, and although I do tend to do as Edgar has suggested (tell the truth > come Hell or high water) I would have to agree with Joe here that the > approach most true to Right Speech would be one which employs a little more > touch of Skillful Means. > > ...Bill! > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > Mike, > > > > LOL! So you are now channeling Buddha for me? > > > > Are you so naive that you don't know you can find at least one internet > > site that supports anything? > > > > Did you do a Whois lookup to confirm Buddha himself is the webmaster of > > that site? > > > > Geeez, and you lecture me on Right Thinking?!!! > > > > Once again I am right and you are wrong..... > > > > Right speech is NOT coddling the emotionally needy. Right speech is saying > > what is true even when it rubs the defensive ego the wrong way - as in your > > case presently.... > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > On May 23, 2013, at 10:42 AM, uerusuboyo@ wrote: > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > You teaching me anything about Buddhism would be like Stalin teaching > > > Gandhi about compassion. Right Speech isn't always just about just > > > telling the truth (besides, do you have proof he was a pedophile or just > > > speculating?). Here, I'll let Buddha himself teach you: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.suanmokkh.org/archive/rtspch1.htm > > > WELL-SPOKEN WORDS ARE SAMMAVACA > > > > > > Bhikkhus, words having these five characteristics are words well-spoken, > > > are not words badly-spoken, are blameless words that the wise do not > > > criticize. What are these five characteristics? The five are: > > > > > > spoken at the proper time > > > spoken in line with the truth > > > spoken gently > > > spoken beneficially > > > spoken with a friendly heart > > > > > > Bhikkhus, speech having these five characteristics are words well-spoken, > > > are not words badly-spoken, are blameless words that the wise do not > > > criticize. > > > > > > > > > Edgar, you've just been schooled once more.. > > > > > > Mike ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
