trivialised or not...chris..every bit counts in the scheme of things...enlightenment may come in many forms, let us not scoff at trivia but embrace it as part of the endless pursuit of man to find meaning in life...merle
http://www.thesatoriteacompany.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IK735YHVtA http://zenhabits.net/ I believe you must simply be failing to understand my words here. You've never seen US culture trivialize zen? http://cherrycrime26.hubpages.com/hub/Meditation-Techniques-To-Manifest-Money http://www.zenprofits.com/ http://www.amazon.com/Soul-Centered-Transform-Your-Weeks-Meditation/dp/1401935869 Oh well, Chris Thanks, --Chris [email protected] +1-301-270-6524 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Joe <[email protected]> wrote: Chris, > >I never heard such stuff. Dunno where you may be coming from. > >It may be just a geographic or cultural proclivity, or merely and importantly >personal. > >I hope you and your chosen teacher will take these things up, if they are >important in (Zen) practice. > >Best, > > >--Joe > >> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: >> > >> I wasn't really referring to the case when people with a lot of aware >> experiences of buddha nature trivialize it - that seems like a non-problem >> to me. >> >> I was referring to the tendency of [my, i.e. US] culture to trivialize >> everything, especially stuff from other traditions, e.g. >> http://zeninamoment.com/ or http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/list/1 >> http://bigmind.org/genpo-roshi >> >> People want to think that there is some simple fix that they can acquire, >> rather than that there is no problem, and nothing to fix but their own >> tendencies to blindness, irritation and wanting stuff, which is extremely >> non-trivial to lay down, and that the process of laying down these >> tendencies is so profoundly satisfying that one can't find it trivial; it >> is as trivial as singing in the rain while feeling happy. >> >> In my experience, people in the US are apt to paper over the most profound >> moments with silly thin ideas, turning away from the suchness we have a >> chance to share in and turning towards some paper-thing abstraction. >> >> Do I think that substituting "seeing God" or "seeing the face of God" might >> help someone understand "Just This!" or "experience Buddha nature"? I find >> it likely enough to be worth discussing. > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are >reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
