Pudgala2, With the utmost respect for the learned men you've quoted below I must point out what they mean by 'experience' is what I call 'perception' - the intellectualization of experience by the intellect. If you substitute 'perception' for 'experience' in all the quotes I would agree.
When I use the word 'experience' it refers solely to immediate, raw, sensory experience - what we call touch, sight, sound, smell and taste. Experience is actually just one thing, not five, and that one thing is also called Buddha Nature. This is the way I use those terms. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], "pudgala2" <pudgala2@...> wrote: > > > We learn from experience that men never learn anything from experience. > ~ G. B. Shaw > > Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do with [how you > process] what happens to you. ~ Aldous Huxley > > Ideology is the unspoken assumptions [sentient beings] that organize > your experience of something. ~ Michael Pollan > > Remember, your brain doesn't care what idea you believe and then > perceive. Your healthy brain will instantly convert into your subjective > life experience of the moment any idea that you believe. ~ Maxie C. > Maultsby, Jr., M.D. > > Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. ~ Oscar Wilde > > The Royal Society of London took as its motto Nullius in Verba [Nothing > in Words], best translated as "Take nobody's word for it, see for > yourself." Granted its charter in 1662 by Charles II, the Royal Society > is the oldest and most venerated of English scientific societies. > > By insisting on exactness, it changed the dominant mode of scientific > inquiry from experience to experiment. The Society judged that anecdotes > of gentlemen naturalists often were random, frivolous, and even > purposely misleading. > > Instead of transacting their findings in the language of "Wits or > Scholars," the Society strove for "clear senses" and a "mathematical > plainness." Experience was personal and never precisely repeatable, > while experiment signified that some types of experience could not only > be confirmed, but also coordinated and systematically added to the stock > of knowledge. Measuring instruments, which were largely an outgrowth of > clock making, especially helped transform singular experiences into > repeatable experiments (Boorstin, 1983) ~ Richard E. Cytowic M.D., The > Neurological Side of Neuropsychology, page 18 > > Epistemology is the investigation of what distinguishes justified belief > (theory) from opinion. > > Zen specifically indicates zazen as the crucible to end suffering. You > will be dragged around forever by the sentient beings (beliefs, > opinions, attitudes, moods, etc.) in your mind until you release them in > zazen. You might think, feel, believe you know but the suffering you > experience testifies against you. > > And Jesus said, "By their fruits [postings, behavior, moods, etc.] you > will know them." You will know whether they really know or are just > driven by personal ideological experience. > > > > pudgala2 > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
