Perception, delusion, thought... these are all based on each other.  Experience 
just IS.  You can't think of anything you don't already know -- thoughts that 
feel new are just new combinations of pieces of old knowledge.

When we do experience "experience", mind is aware of it, and does what it does 
best, which is to 'realize' it (VERY quickly, too).  At this point, it is no 
longer 'experience'.

It's like going bird-watching; you quietly sneak upon a beautiful specimen.  As 
you slowly reach for your binoculars, your dumb-ass buddy shouts, "HEY!!  
THERE'S ONE UP THERE!!!  HURRY, IT'S FLYING AWAY FOR SOME REASON!!  WHY IS IT 
THAT EVERY TIME I SEE A BIRD IT FLIES AWAY?!?!"

Your buddy really believes the bird is flying away because it was seen; he is 
confusing his identifying shouts for the act of seeing the bird.  You'd have a 
much easier time (effortless, in fact) if you went to the woods by yourself, 
but your buddy is the one with the car!


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 On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 9:48 AM EDT Bill! wrote:
 
 >Merle,
 >
 >First of all perceptions are neither good or bad, they're just delusional. 
 >There only 'bad' if you form attachments to them (believe they are real).
 >
 >In the quote my interpretations is 'seeing' is experience and 'thinking' is 
 >perception and other intellectual activities.
 >
 >The quote is:
 >
 >"The foolish reject what they see and not what they think;..."
 >
 >This to me a caution about placing more importance in thinking than 
 >experience. 
 >
 >"..the wise reject what they think and not what they see."
 >
 >This to me is an encouragement to put less importance on what you think and 
 >more on what you experience.
 >
 >...Bill!
 >
 >--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
 >>
 >> 
 >> 
 >>  
 >>  seeing is good
 >>  thinking is bad... 
 >> is this the correct perception ?..
 >> merle
 >> 
 >> 
 >>   
 >> This is mainly for Merle.
 >> 
 >> I thought it might help if I enlisted a little help from one of my 
 >> buddies...
 >> 
 >> 
 >> ...Bill!
 >>
 >
 >
 >
 >
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 >
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