Bill!, It takes one to know one! ~PeeBeeEss
------------------------------ On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 10:30 AM EDT Bill! wrote: >PBS, > >Good analogy! > >...Bill! > >--- In [email protected], pandabananasock@... wrote: >> >> >> Perception, delusion, thought... these are all based on each other. >> Experience just IS. You can't think of anything you don't already know -- >> thoughts that feel new are just new combinations of pieces of old knowledge. >> >> When we do experience "experience", mind is aware of it, and does what it >> does best, which is to 'realize' it (VERY quickly, too). At this point, it >> is no longer 'experience'. >> >> It's like going bird-watching; you quietly sneak upon a beautiful specimen. >> As you slowly reach for your binoculars, your dumb-ass buddy shouts, "HEY!! >> THERE'S ONE UP THERE!!! HURRY, IT'S FLYING AWAY FOR SOME REASON!! WHY IS IT >> THAT EVERY TIME I SEE A BIRD IT FLIES AWAY?!?!" >> >> Your buddy really believes the bird is flying away because it was seen; he >> is confusing his identifying shouts for the act of seeing the bird. You'd >> have a much easier time (effortless, in fact) if you went to the woods by >> yourself, but your buddy is the one with the car! >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 9:48 AM EDT Bill! wrote: >> >> >Merle, >> > >> >First of all perceptions are neither good or bad, they're just delusional. >> >There only 'bad' if you form attachments to them (believe they are real). >> > >> >In the quote my interpretations is 'seeing' is experience and 'thinking' >> >is perception and other intellectual activities. >> > >> >The quote is: >> > >> >"The foolish reject what they see and not what they think;..." >> > >> >This to me a caution about placing more importance in thinking than >> >experience. >> > >> >"..the wise reject what they think and not what they see." >> > >> >This to me is an encouragement to put less importance on what you think >> >and more on what you experience. >> > >> >...Bill! >> > >> >--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> >  >> >  seeing is good >> >  thinking is bad... >> > is this the correct perception ?.. >> > merle >> > >> > >> >  >> > This is mainly for Merle. >> > >> > I thought it might help if I enlisted a little help from one of my >> > buddies... >> > >> > >> > ...Bill! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------------ >> > >> >Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are >> >reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >------------------------------------ > >Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are >reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
