PBS, Another good analogy.
Describing a monistic experience is virtually impossible using language because language, at least English, is inherently dualistically oriented assuming a subject/object relationship. And it's 100 times more difficult in a text-based medium like the Zen Forum. This is why many of the dialogues between zen adepts or zen teacher to zen students, many of which are the basis of koans, sound so cryptic and illogical. It is because the speakers, at least one of them, are attempting to describe something illogical; something without a subject/object - monism. What is Buddha Nature? A dried-shit stick. The oak tree in the garden. Three pounds of flax. Mu. Katz! [Raise one finger]. [Place sandals on head, turn around and walk away.], etc... Or...Just THIS! ...Bill! --- In [email protected], <pandabananasock@...> wrote: > > Chris, > I should have worded my response, "Mind minds mind". What's the point of > trying to conceptualize monistic experience when it's already right there? > It reminds me of people at concerts who watch the show on their iPhone > screens as they record it. > -PBS > > -------------------------------------------- > On Sat, 7/6/13, Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Say Bye-Bye to the Delusion of Cause-and-Effect and > Karma > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, July 6, 2013, 1:13 AM > > And PBS, was there some non-rhetorical point > about mind moves? Other than the joke about mouths > flapping? Do you also have some concept of monistic > experience which excludes what may post hoc be called an > appreciation for the richness the trip? > > Thanks, > > --Chris > > 301-270-6524 > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
