Dear Wai,
Thank you so much for the link to www.tzuchi.org  I am new to this group this morning, and have read many postings already.  All are interesting and contribute to understanding (although I must sympathize with Anders in his dismay at the tone), but this is by far the most useful thing I have found.  I have added it to my favorites list, and will contact my local chapter today.  I believe in Tich Nhat Hahn's vision of "engaged Buddhism" and am always joyful to find an opportunity.  Thank you again.  Peace and enlightenment to all of my new friends here at Zen Forum.
Kathleen Knight (abodhi2b)
----- Original Message -----
From: wai_dk
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen in The Middle East?

Hi Al

I've communicated with you several times and I've found that you can
actually be a nice and thoughtful person, and I've learnt much from
you too. So what happened to you? Why are you so testy?  It's
especially not too exemplary for a moderator.
Or is your testiness meant to encourage participation? Quite
successful though, I must admit. :-)

There is a Saddam, Hitler, Stalin or terrorist in each of us. There
is also a Mother Theresa in each of us. So we are either be a Mother
Theresa in the making or a Saddam in the making, depending on whether
or not we develop wisdom and compassion. If we continue to indulge in
vengeful attitudes, we can very well become a future Saddam in a
future lifetime. If we practise kindness, we can potentially become a
future Mother Theresa.
Judging by recent posts, it seems that there are more manifestations
of Saddam than Mother Theresa. If we continue to be vengeful towards
each other, you can forget about helping the Middle East now, because
there will be many more future Saddams to reckon with. So it's
imperative that we get rid of the Saddam in each of us now.

If we can't even do a basic thing such as being kind towards fellow
posters in this forum, I seriously wonder how sincere is our intent
when we say we want to help the Middle East people. It's just pure
hypocrisy. So the most immediate that we can do, without having to
even lift a finger, not to mention travelling the distance to Middle
East, is to get rid of the Saddam in each of us. If we can't even do
this one simple thing, we can forget about all the empty talk of
helping the Middle East. Social reform actually starts with self-
reform.

AL wrote> The DaLai Lama was recently here in Miami amid much
> fanfare, selling his DVDs, videos, cassettes, and making various
> speeches at various local Arenas and Convocation Halls. None of the
> events were free, and there were no "free passes" for students of
> any age. Dolly had a lot to say about World Peace, but it is
> interesting to notice that his multi-millionaire ass is always far
> away from where bullets and bloodshed and poverty exist.

I think we should do a cost-benefit analysis before deciding on
whether or not the Dalai Lama should be in the Middle East. Do you
think having him there would benefit the Arabs much? Do you think the
Arabs would listen to him? I seriously doubt so. In fact, for the
Dalai Lama to go to Middle East and endanger his own life would be a
most irresponsible thing for him to do. Given his influence and
stature, and the inspiration that he is to most Buddhists, he should
prolong his life to teach as many people as possible, to prevent as
many future Saddams and nurture as many Mother Theresas.
For the same reason, I do not think that Mother Theresa, if still
alive, should be in Middle East. Moreover, if she were to be killed
in Middle East, the enmity between Muslims and Christians can only
become worse.
A local Imam or Mullah would undoubtedly do a better job of preaching
peace or pacifism than would the Dalai Lama. And even then, I do not
think that they should risk their lives unnecessarily.

> Where are the Zen and/or Buddhist Soup Kitchens? Where is the
> Buddhist Mother Theresa who is actively in the trenches helping the
> poor and the sick? Where is the social work for the benefit of
> others?

There are actually Buddhist groups out there doing charity work, one
good example is Tzu Chi Foundation (http://www.tzuchi.org).

Many buddhist groups are also doing prayers and chanting, and sending
and dedicating the positive energy towards a more peaceful Middle
East. Do you happen to believe in prayers and chanting?

wai



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