On Apr 15, 2005, at 11:46 AM, kyukyo wrote:

> In in most other meditation practice,the issues involved take place
> within the sphere of knowing and from beginning to end, these methods
> focus on this sphere. In short, the core of the practice is concerned
> with the regulation and control of conditions in the sphere of knowing.
> In that sense they are build on "what-is-known-is-everything-ism" and 
> we
> can see that there is no interest in a dimension of beyond knowing. 
> With
> regard to this, zazen doesn't ignore the value of knowing, but the main
> emphasis is put on beyond-knowing which transcends knowing and makes
> knowing possible. It is precisely for this reason that no matter what
> happens within the sphere of knowing, it is all right not to deal with
> such things with your own thoughts and simply entrust yourself to their
> appearance and disappearance by simply noticing them. In zazen,it is
> enough to know that such things appear naturally moment to moment 
> within
> the sphere of knowing. It is not to have the intention of trying to
> produce some special condition."
>
> This beyond-knowing is what the "only don't know" advocates are 
> pointing
> to.

As to the posting, I believe I grasp its meaning, except for this part 
that talks of "knowing".  I suspect it is part of something longer and 
there is content preceding, or that there is some context for beginning 
on this subject of "knowing".

Most specifically this:

> In in most other meditation practice,the issues involved take place
> within the sphere of knowing and from beginning to end, these methods
> focus on this sphere.

and this:

> This beyond-knowing is what the "only don't know" advocates are 
> pointing
> to.

seem to be commenting on something else precedent to the essay.

AAAaaahhh.

> In in most other meditation practice,

so an essay comparing zen versus non-zen mediation practice.

So what is this "only don't know" stuff?

  There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in.
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