Lol!

Yeah, funny.  I also saw the irony in a letter about don't-know.  No
wonder people with insight often laugh when asked a question.  They sit
silence because of the paradoxical bind of not being able to answer
without lies. 

Less specific, but more funny would be:
1)  What is this don't-know stuff
2)  Shrug, I really don't know!

Rod Scholl 



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Subject: RE: [Zen] beyond knowing


Actually, credit for the good koan goes to Doug.  Credit for writing a
letter describing the taste of "only don't know" goes to Rod.  :)  I
would call this failed attempt "Ode to the proper use of knowledge."
Tasty and nutritious, Rod, thanks!

Ian

>  Ian Writes:
>So what is this "only don't know" stuff?
>
>Lol!  Is that a clever joke?  I think you've written a good koan:
>
>The student asks, "what is this only-don't-know stuff?"
>The master replies, "you have written me a letter, asking where you can

>learn to write.  In your next letter describe to me the taste of an 
>orange.  Call your failed attempt an "Ode to the misuse of Knolwedge".
>
>Its funny that for me, I was in a panic about knowing which stuff I 
>needed to know, given the huge body of knowledge in human history.  It 
>seemed a puzzle of, given limited life, selecting which pieces to use 
>and hoping my intellect was sufficiently trained to mesh the pieces 
>together and grasp the Ultimate Truth.  I walked around knowing the 
>odds were stacked against me -- but I knew I couldn't give up knowledge

>because it seemed the only ticket out of this sometimes unhappy place.
>However, once I recognized my first don't-know (for me it was 
>over-thinking how to breathe and fucking it up even worse) and I 
>realized a new side of existence.  I had created a monologue of 
>knoweldge describing everything I encountered, via prediction, 
>psychology, entropy, physiological knowledge of thinking, etc -- and of

>course I knew I hadn't grasped the ultimate truth because this 
>narration was a pathetic attempt at descrbing a taste of an orange.  
>Now the don't-knows far outweight the knows, dwarfing my collection of 
>smart things to think into a small pathetic pile.  I know knowledge 
>(having experienced it) and I know I've eaten an orange.  I don't-know 
>what an orange tastes like.  If im interested I will eat one for a
reminder.
>
>I thought when I reached the boundary of knowledge I would find an 
>Ultimate Truth, or at least have a lot of people kiss my ass for taking

>the human endeavor a step further.  Once I realized I'd been stomping 
>all over the 'boundary' inside and out, and claiming I couldn't see any

>of my foot prints in the don't-knows, I then got a whole chunk of life 
>given back to me from myself. My horizone expanded to have both 
>knoweldge and lack-of-knowledge.  I can't even quite remember what made

>me think knowledge was more important then everything else in living...
>I suppose I was pretty unahppy then, and the knoweldge did work quite a

>bit.  I just forgot to put it down after the storm passed.
>
>(obviously I like talking about my little discoveries... It takes my 
>mind off the fact that my hairs on fire :)
>
>Rod Scholl



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