Ian: If it so happens that the very point we want to address is a question of someone's personal life Well, yeah. ALL the points about zen practice are about one's personal life! You've said unhelpfully that this is tricky. Yeah, it is 'bout as tricky as every other choice we make. Rod
________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of Ian Sent: Sun 4/24/2005 9:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Zen] What is a Teacher? There doesn't seem to be any alternative to discussing Zen as we each see it. This sounds good to me. A discussion of how a teacher might "squeeze" a student (for lack of a better term, at the moment), or how this works between students, possibly even, or experiences of this sort... I think this would all be very interesting and possibly awareness-expanding for understanding Zen practice. When it goes beyond discussion, to attempting to actually practice "the squeeze" here, I just think this forum cannot provide the proper context. I wouldn't want to paint myself into the corner that participation is all about just discussing our ideas about Zen, while not putting them into practice in the forum participation itself. What do I write? It seems to be a question of first knowing my mind, and then reflecting on how cause and effect might operate here. Not an easy question, and I'm bound to get it wrong sometimes. This is why I think a default of making one's point, without getting "personal" seems safest, to me. If it so happens that the very point we want to address is a question of someone's personal life, then this is a very tricky thing to do in a way that will allow the person to receive it without raising the iron wall of self defense and opening the gun ports. Ian Rod writes: >I see what you mean, Ian. And I guess I agree. But what alternatie do >we have, but discussing zen as we each see it? In what way do you >recommend we approach this forum? Current Book Discussion: Appreciate Your Life by Taizan Maezumi Roshi. New or used at: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1570622280/ref=ase_actionheroesc-20/002-4507763-9442460?v=glance&s=books> Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/UwRTUD/UOnJAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Current Book Discussion: Appreciate Your Life by Taizan Maezumi Roshi. New or used at: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1570622280/ref=ase_actionheroesc-20/002-4507763-9442460?v=glance&s=books> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
