On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Chris Du <dilid...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>Can you use SATA drives with expanders at all? (I have to stick to
> enterprise/nearline SATA (100 EUR/TByte vs. 60 EUR/TByte consumer SATA) for
> cost reasons).
>
> Yes you can in E1 model. E1 is single path model which supports both SAS
> and SATA. You need to know what you are buying. The Supermicro case you buy
> has backplane with SAS expander.
>
> In E2 model which supports multipathing, dual-port is required because each
> path needs access to the disk at the same time, thus SAS is required, SATA
> is single-port. If you want more bandwidth between your HBA and disks and
> better redundancy, you need multipathing so E2.
>
> I still suggest you go with nearline SAS. SAS is dual-port design,  it has
> much better IOPS, command queue and error recovery. Data transfer speed is
> same between NS2 SAS and SATA. I know a lot of people have big problem with
> 7200.11 but this is not the same disk. It does cost even more than
> enterprise SATA.
>
> We have SATA disk shelves in NetApp, I say SATA doesn't belong to
> Enterprise. Granted, SATA is only used in dev environment, production uses
> 15K FC disks which we never have performance issue.
>
> The reason I use external disk shelf is I ran out of disk trays in head
> unit. Adding SAS shelf is the quick, easy and cheap way to expand storage. I
> won't touch cluster file system as it gets too complicated and way toooooo
> expensive.
>


Better IOPS?  Do you have some numbers to back that claim up?  I've never
heard of anyone getting "much better" IOPS out of a drive by simply changing
the interface from SATA to SAS.  Or SATA to FATA for that matter.  A 7200RPM
drive is limited by the 7200RPM's, not the interface it's attached to.

--Tim
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