On Jan 8, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Edmund White <ewwh...@mac.com> wrote:

> The D2600 and D2700 enclosures are fully supported as Nexenta JBODs. I run 
> them in multiple production environments. 

Yes, I worked on the field qualifications for these… very nice JBODs :-)

> I *could* use an HP-branded LSI controller (SC08Ge), but I prefer the higher 
> performance of the LSI 9211 and 9205e HBA's.

Many of the big-box vendors have to deal with Windows as the target OS. Until 
Server 2012,
the use of JBODs with lots of disks was challenging for Windows. Hence, they 
offer few
options for the folks who want JBOD control.
 -- richard

> I recently posted on Server Fault with the Nexenta console representation of 
> the HP D2700 JBOD. It's already integrated with NexentaStor.
> -- 
> Edmund White
> ewwh...@mac.com
> From: Mark - <carne...@gmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 12:09 PM
> To: Sašo Kiselkov <skiselkov...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org" <zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org>
> Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] HP Proliant DL360 G7
> Good call Saso.  Sigh... I guess I wait to hear from HP on supported IT mode 
> HBAs in their D2000s or other jbods.
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Sašo Kiselkov <skiselkov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/08/2013 04:27 PM, mark wrote:
> >> On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:57 PM, Richard Elling wrote:
> >>
> >> FYI, HP also sells an 8-port IT-style HBA (SC-08Ge), but it is hard to 
> >> locate
> >> with their configurators. There might be a more modern equivalent cleverly
> >> hidden somewhere difficult to find.
> >>  -- richard
> >>
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > Do you know if the HBAs in HP controllers be swapped out with any well
> > characterized (by nexenta) HBAs like the 9211-8e or do they require a 
> > specific
> > 'controller HBA' like the SC-08Ge?  IE, does it void the warranty if you 
> > open up
> > the controller and stick a third party card in there?  Did you ever try to
> > 'bypass' the controllers at all and just plug into an expander?  I prefer HP
> > hardware also but the controller is getting in the way.
> >
> > Ill be asking HP the same questions in the next few weeks with any luck but 
> > your
> > opinion and experiences are on another level compared to HPs pre-sales
> > department... not that theyre bad but in this realm youre the man :)
> I know you didn't ask me, but I can tell you my experience: it depends
> on what you mean by "warranty". If you mean as in "warranty on sales of
> goods" (as mandated by law), then no, sticking a different HBA in your
> servers does not void your warranty (unless this is expressly labeled on
> the product - manufacturers typically also put protective labels on
> screws then).
> When it comes to support services, though, such as phone support and
> firmware updates, then yes, using a third-party HBA can make these
> difficult and/or impossible. HP storage enclosure and drive firmware,
> for example, can only be flashed through an HP-branded SmartArray card.
> Depending on what software you are running on the machines it can make
> no difference at all, or a lot of difference. For instance, if you're
> running proprietary storage controller software on the server (think
> something like NexentaStor, but from the HW vendor), then your custom
> HBA might simply be flat out unsupported and the only response you'll
> get from the vendor support team is "stick the card we shipped it with
> back in". OTOH if you're running something not HW vendor-specific (like
> the aforementioned NexentaStor, or any other Illumos variant), and the
> HW vendor at least gives lip service to supporting your platform (always
> tell the support folk you're running "Solaris"), then chances are that
> your support contract will be just as valid as before. I've had drives
> fail on Dell machines and each time support was happy when I just told
> them "drive dead, running Solaris, here's the log output, send a new one
> please".
> Cheers,
> --
> Saso
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