> The US maintains that the actions against Iraq do 
not constitute a war of aggression, but are a defense of family and 

Saying it doesn't make it so.  Individuals are free to decide for themselves the 
justice of a particular action.  If an American member feels that the government is 
not right to pursue war with Iraq, he is free to not be a soldier.  In that way he can 
still support the notion of his government while not supporting the war.  He can then 
vigorously speak out against his government's actions.  If he chooses to be a soldier 
then he has to fight even if he disagrees with the policy.

As a side note, my extremely limited experience shows that most soldiers don't think 
about whether a war is just or not.  They oppose war because it takes them away from 
loved ones, is generally an unpleasant experience and they know they could be maimed 
or killed.  No theory, just self-concern.

>John is convinced that a secret combination involving the Trilateral 
Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations has taken over the US 
government and coopted its power for their own purposes.

I'm not sure specifically who makes up the conspiracy, but are you of the opinion that 
one does not exist?  Have you forgotten what list this is? ;-)

> Marc is equally 
convinced that the US government is corrupt and seeks only for its own 
good, regardless of the needs of the rest of the world.

And you are saying that this is not so?  Admittedly, it does depend on what you define 
as "the goverment".

>Rather, I am defending Elder Nelson's comments against being co-opted by 
others as an endorsement of their political opinions. 

I agree with you.  Let's carefully understand what he said and not twist it to fit any 
pet viewpoints.  Let's do that with all the talks.  We want to understand and follow 
what they actually said, not what we wished to hear.

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