I *am* an industry expert, Jon. I spent 5 years working for the medical products
division of Atomic Energy Canada Ltd., one of the few suppliers of radioactive
caesium still left (and we even know how to spell it right!).  Caesium
contamination is only easy to take care of if the decon/detox is initiated
immediately, if it's clear that it's caesium, and if it's not contaminated with
something else (like the dusty remains of a big skyscraper). So go back and tell
your "several experts in this field" that I'd be happy to correspond directly
with them. Ask them about the children in Brazil who got contaminated by caesium
when they discovered discarded vials in a city dump near Sao Paulo a few years
ago. If they know about that, I'll talk to them. If they don't, they're no
experts in my book.

Jon Spencer wrote:

> Sorry, Marc, but you are wrong.  This information comes from several experts
> in this field who deal with the actual (expected) contaminants.  Neither you
> nor I are experts, so from my perspective, you lose.  Spreading hysteria
> must be a Canadian sport, which has filtered down to the anti-nuke folks in
> the US! :-)
>
> Jon
>
> Marc A. Schindler wrote:
>
> It's *not* that simple. You can't just shower off caesium particles, which
> get
> absorbed into the skin, and get breathed in to the lungs.  Cobalt 60 dust is
> even
> worse, but harder to obtain since the way it normally comes for medical use
> is in
> tiny cylinders 1 mm long and about .2 mm across, packed into a triple-welded
> cylinder about 3.5 cm long and 1.5 - 2 cm across.
>
> I was in one of the classrooms at Parirenwatwa Hospital (formerly Sir
> Sanford
> Fleming Hospital) in Harare, Zimbabwe, about 7 or 8 years ago, and saw a
> display
> of what happened when a janitor picked up a small vial of caesium powder and
> put
> it in his pocket (it was a lesson on the need for proper storage security --
> this
> kind of incident would be unthinkable in an OECD country's hospital. One
> would
> hope, anyway). He only had it for a day before he gave it to a doctor, but
> it ate
> away most of his genitals and lower abdomen skin. Very gruesome.
>
> If you get it in your lungs there's no immediate problem, but your chance of
> getting lung cancer skyrockets.
>
> Jon Spencer wrote:
>
> > Actually, dirty bombs are not a big deal from a radioactivity point of
> view.
> > If one is exposed to a dirty nuke, one only has to get to a complete
> shower
> > (at home will do just fine) within a couple of hours, and there will be no
> > long term effects.  The cleanup will be a pain to be sure, but not a
> really
> > big deal either.
> >
> > Of course, with all the hysteria over nuclear power that the envirowackos
> > have stirred up, the emotional damage would be much greater.
> >
> > But that's a topic for another thread, one that I have begun doing
> detailed
> > and extensive research on.  You will be the first to see the fruits of
> that
> > research - sort of a test market!
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > Marc A. Schindler wrote:
> > I think the most imminent threat isn't from a conventional nuke but from
> > so-called dirty bombs, which are conventional explosives packed with a
> messy
> > radioactive substance such as caesium (which is a powder in natural form).
> >
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> Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland
>
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> pick
> himself up and continue on" - Winston Churchill
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