At 03:40 PM 11/5/2003, you wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love
> At 10:17 AM 11/5/2003, you wrote:
> >At 04:50 PM 11/5/2003 +0000, Gary wrote:
> >
> >>What is important is that we don't twist that love as did Nehor
> and as do
> >>many today, to excuse their sinful natures.
> >
> >
> >Has anyone taken the time and energy to look at the Anti-Christs in the
> >Book of Mormon, such as Nehors, Korihor and company, to see how their
> >"philosophies" play out in today's society?  Since there's nothing new
> >under the sun, I suspect that all of these abominations appear today,
> >probably rather thinly cloaked, in the hype of today's "cool" thinking.
> President Benson thought so. For instance, in his famous talk (Which he
> gave over 37 different times. Not only in General Conference but to
> Regional Conferences, Regional Representatives Seminars, reprinted as the
> 1st Presidency Message in the Ensign, and in various wards he visited)
> entitled, "The Book of Mormon is the Word of God," he stated that the
> second major purpose of the Book of Mormon was to expose, "the enemies of
> Christ. It confounds false doctrines and lays down contention.
> (See 2 Nephi
> 3:12.) It fortifies the humble followers of Christ against the evil
> designs, strategies, and doctrines of the devil in our day. The type of
> apostates in the Book of Mormon are similar to the type we have
> today. God,
> with his infinite foreknowledge, so molded the Book of Mormon
> that we might
> see the error and know how to combat false educational, political,
> religious, and philosophical concepts of our time."
> I, for one, cannot read Alma chapter 30 without coming to the same
> conclusion that President Benson did. Korihor was exhibiting many of the
> philosophies we here about today. Such as atheism, secular humanism, and
> survival of the fittest.<

I'd guess it would be wiser of me to withhold comment on a topic so
potentially explosive here. So I will demur. But for me, and perhaps a few
others, please refine your alarm. Give us specific examples of the kinds of
apostates we have today (as foretold in the Book of Mormon) and how secular
humanism and athiesm are bigger threats to us today than they were, say, a
couple of hundred years ago.

Ron Scott

Sure. I'll try. Korihor typifies those today who practice no religion at all. Man doesn't need God because there isn't one. Man only prospers according to his own genius or abilities. Whether practiced by extreme capitalists (Corporate raiders come to mind) or Marxists (A "progressive" society which will eventually evolve into a communist utopia).

Nehor typifies those who proclaim for an "easy" religion. Man doesn't really need to do anything other than profess a vague awareness or belief in God.

The example of the Zoramites typify those who selfish-hypocritical religionists. God has chosen them to be better than others.

I'd say that the Book of Mormon does a pretty good job of speaking out against those who proclaim a return to naturalism, social or moral relativism, hedonism and the idea prevalent in today's society that man only achieves anything through his own efforts and abilities.

-- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Nations are defined by their founders. George Washington set a standard of
selfless public service and heroic private virtue against which American
politicians continue to be measured - and found wanting - even today." --Steven W. Mosher

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