> -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:29 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > At 03:40 PM 11/5/2003, you wrote: > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:24 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > > > > > > > At 10:17 AM 11/5/2003, you wrote: > > > >At 04:50 PM 11/5/2003 +0000, Gary wrote: > > > > > > > >>What is important is that we don't twist that love as did Nehor > > > and as do > > > >>many today, to excuse their sinful natures. > > > > > > > > > > > >Has anyone taken the time and energy to look at the > Anti-Christs in the > > > >Book of Mormon, such as Nehors, Korihor and company, to see how their > > > >"philosophies" play out in today's society? Since there's > nothing new > > > >under the sun, I suspect that all of these abominations appear today, > > > >probably rather thinly cloaked, in the hype of today's > "cool" thinking. > > > > > > President Benson thought so. For instance, in his famous talk > (Which he > > > gave over 37 different times. Not only in General Conference but to > > > Regional Conferences, Regional Representatives Seminars, > reprinted as the > > > 1st Presidency Message in the Ensign, and in various wards he visited) > > > entitled, "The Book of Mormon is the Word of God," he stated that the > > > second major purpose of the Book of Mormon was to expose, > "the enemies of > > > Christ. It confounds false doctrines and lays down contention. > > > (See 2 Nephi > > > 3:12.) It fortifies the humble followers of Christ against the evil > > > designs, strategies, and doctrines of the devil in our day. > The type of > > > apostates in the Book of Mormon are similar to the type we have > > > today. God, > > > with his infinite foreknowledge, so molded the Book of Mormon > > > that we might > > > see the error and know how to combat false educational, political, > > > religious, and philosophical concepts of our time." > > > I, for one, cannot read Alma chapter 30 without coming to the same > > > conclusion that President Benson did. Korihor was exhibiting > many of the > > > philosophies we here about today. Such as atheism, secular > humanism, and > > > survival of the fittest.< > > > >I'd guess it would be wiser of me to withhold comment on a topic so > >potentially explosive here. So I will demur. But for me, and > perhaps a few > >others, please refine your alarm. Give us specific examples of > the kinds of > >apostates we have today (as foretold in the Book of Mormon) and > how secular > >humanism and athiesm are bigger threats to us today than they > were, say, a > >couple of hundred years ago. > > > >Ron Scott > > Sure. I'll try. Korihor typifies those today who practice no religion at > all. Man doesn't need God because there isn't one. Man only prospers > according to his own genius or abilities. Whether practiced by extreme > capitalists (Corporate raiders come to mind) or Marxists (A "progressive" > society which will eventually evolve into a communist utopia). > > Nehor typifies those who proclaim for an "easy" religion. Man doesn't > really need to do anything other than profess a vague awareness or belief > in God. > > The example of the Zoramites typify those who selfish-hypocritical > religionists. God has chosen them to be better than others. > > I'd say that the Book of Mormon does a pretty good job of speaking out > against those who proclaim a return to naturalism, social or moral > relativism, hedonism and the idea prevalent in today's society that man > only achieves anything through his own efforts and abilities.<
So for the moment I will abide your claims above. Meantime, please answer the key question I asked earlier: Give us specific examples of > ... how secular humanism and athiesm are bigger threats to us today than they were, say, a couple of hundred years ago.< Church membership is up. Ditto church attendance. Ditto people who identify themselves as a member of a church. Ron ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^----------------------------------------------------------------
