And I don't disagree with all people receiving equal treatment under the 
law. Nothing says a gay cannot marry someone of the opposite sex, just 
as all have that same exact opportunity.

I do think the government, especially federal, needs to go (as Steven 
mentioned) to either a flat tax, or more preferably the sales tax. The 
only issues would be government employee health programs, which if we 
reduce government severely, will reduce that issue and the cost of it 
regardless of which way it goes.

And should government open things up then to force my military 
retirement program to include my family cat, as she is definitely a 
"part of the family"???
Gary Smith

Ron Scott wrote:
> 
> Black ministers should speak their minds.  However, as the
> discussion was about "activist judges" I will point out that
> major civil rights decisions were written by "activist judges."
> The nation is the better for their activity.  I'll stick by my
> assertion that "activist" goes with the assignment to the Supreme
> Court and appellate courts.
> 
> On the other subject, please give me an example of the 200-year
> history of laws/legal interpretations that define marriage.
> 
> Finally, I agree with the black ministers: gays are not entitled
> to be classified as a "minority group." Nevertheless, individuals
> are also entitled to seek the full protection of the law, as
> Steven will confirm.
> 
> RBS
> 
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:26 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: [ZION] Vote Now!
> >
> >
> >Okay, how about 200+ years of laws being interpreted a
> >certain way, only
> >to have judges granting new "rights" to certain
> >minority groups. There
> >are a lot of black ministers meeting in Atlanta today
> >to fight the gay
> >marriage acts in Georgia. They are demanding that gays
> >not equate their
> >movement with Civil Rights, since gays are not being
> >forced to drink
> >from a separate water fountain, sit in the back of the
> >bus, or prevented
> >from voting. Nor have they been enslaved.
> >
> >When judges ignore the rights of the majority, in favor
> >of only the
> >minority, then we have a serious problem.
> >
> >Gary Smith
> >
> >
> >Ron Scott wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:39 AM
> >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >Subject: RE: [ZION] Vote Now!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Just because a judge is an activist judge, does not
> >make him a
> >> >thoughtful one.<
> >>
> >> I'm growing weary of the tiresome assumption that "activist
> >> judge" is a negative description. By definition any appellate
> >> judge worth his gavel is an "activist judge" because
> >he is often
> >> asked to interpret constitutional law.  I daresay
> >that one man's
> >> "activist judge" is another's "strict constitutionalist."  I
> >> recommend the following: instead of tossing about meaningless
> >> catch phrases, spend more time explaining what you mean,
> >> demonstrating why a particular court's decision violates the
> >> spirit and intent of the U.S. Constitution.
> >>
> >>
> >> RBS
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >Gerald (Gary) Smith
> >geraldsmith@ juno.com
> >http://www.geocities.com/rameumptom
> >
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Gerald (Gary) Smith
geraldsmith@ juno.com
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