On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Stephan Richter <stephan.rich...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, April 28, 2013 07:23:12 PM Jim Fulton wrote: >> Can ZODB 4 be used now without zodbpickle? > > No, unfortunately for Py2 we need the custom cPickle and for Py3 `noload()` > support (as Tres mentioned).
This is a problem. The only change in ZODB 4.0 was supposed to be the breakup. This was supposed to be a low-risk release. The separation into multiple packages was supposed to increase agility, but now it appears we're stuck. I'd like there to a stable 4.0 release **soon** that doesn't use zodbpickle for Python 2. For now, I suggest we focus on stability and the ability to make progress on non-Python-3-related work. After that is achieved, I suggest we get to the point where people can create new databases and use them with Python 3. We need to do this without hindering the ability to make new stable releases. As far as the grander vision for Python2/3 transition and interoperability, we need to make progress incrementally and not sacrifice stability of the master branch. I made the 3.11 release fully expecting a stable 4.0 release soon. Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton _______________________________________________ For more information about ZODB, see http://zodb.org/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev