-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 04/29/2013 09:48 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Stephan Richter > <stephan.rich...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Sunday, April 28, 2013 07:23:12 PM Jim Fulton wrote: >>> Can ZODB 4 be used now without zodbpickle? >> >> No, unfortunately for Py2 we need the custom cPickle and for Py3 >> `noload()` support (as Tres mentioned). > > This is a problem. > > The only change in ZODB 4.0 was supposed to be the breakup. > > This was supposed to be a low-risk release. The separation into > multiple packages was supposed to increase agility, but now it appears > we're stuck.
The only reason we had delayed the 4.0 release (in my mind, anyway) was that it was a good way to signal the Py3k compatibliity changes. I'm not wedded to calling the Py3k-compatible release "4.0". > I'd like there to a stable 4.0 release **soon** that doesn't use > zodbpickle for Python 2. > > For now, I suggest we focus on stability and the ability to make > progress on non-Python-3-related work. > > After that is achieved, I suggest we get to the point where people > can create new databases and use them with Python 3. We need to do > this without hindering the ability to make new stable releases. The trunk of the 'ZODB' package does not have any of the Py3k / zodbpickle changes yet. We could make a ZODB 4.0b1 release from the trunk today and create a '4.0' stable branch prior to any merge of the 'py3' work. > As far as the grander vision for Python2/3 transition and > interoperability, we need to make progress incrementally and not > sacrifice stability of the master branch. > > I made the 3.11 release fully expecting a stable 4.0 release soon. That was of the 'ZODB3' meta-package, right? Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlF+gboACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ4+7wCg222VrN5b0jkRrSJKVBL1VEBr 5lgAoINrzLbTus6ycBXcVGovxWIPBQ5t =XLcz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ For more information about ZODB, see http://zodb.org/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
