Chris McDonough wrote:
> I believe to get success here (measured as gaining new Python developer 
> users),
> our path forward needs to be way, way, way more radical and needs to involve
> making hard choices that treat individual packages on their own merit rather
> than even considering their role as part of a larger collection.  That's the
> bottom line and I believe it's our fundamental point of disagreement.  IMO, 
> the
> part a package plays as part of the larger collection should be utterly and
> brutally subservient to its merit as a standalone package.  Also IMO, if there
> were absolutely no list of versions known to work together, but each piece
> worked on its own and had merit on its own, we'd be in a far better place as 
> far
> as attracting new users.  Any list of packages-known-to-work-together should 
> be
> a "oh, by the way, this might be handy", not the raison d'etre of the group 
> and
> this discussion.

+ lots

Chris

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