Am Mittwoch 04 März 2009 17:48:37 schrieb Martijn Faassen: > Hi there, > > Lennart Regebro wrote: > [snip] > > > And it is in any case in no way even remotely connected to the group > > Martijn proposed and has been discussed in this thread. > > - Attracting newbies to web development is not a task of the Zope > Framework project directly, and here I diverge from Hermann. That's a > task of the Plone project or the Grok project, etc. I do think that the > Zope Framework leadership could be much better at attracting and > stimulating contributions to the libraries. > > Attracting more users is important, but that's a task for the Zope 3 app > server developers (however they organize) or the Grok project. The Zope > Framework is a second-level provider to these projects, and in reality > of course people who care about these projects will do most of the > driving of development of the Zope Framework. It's a forum where all > users of these libraries (many or just a few) can get together, work out > our diverse interests, and coordinate.
Ok, it seems I mixed up the Zope3 app server and the Zope Framework a little.So, I agree that attracting newbies should better be done via Grok/Zope3 app server or anything else that build on top of the Zope Framework, as this is the logic path. Nevertheless the Zope Framework should have: - Documentation - Central Website - Some other structure for collaboration (mailing list...) And I think that these points should also be a topic of the steering group. I think an ideal approach would be that the above can be seamingless integrated in upper-level frameworks, so that the step from Zope3 app server/Grok to the Zope Framework is as easy as possible, and, moreover, that efforts need not to be doubled (e.g. that someone writing documentation for Zope 3 app server has to write something about interfaces or the component architecture). Best Regards, Hermann -- herm...@qwer.tk GPG key ID: 299893C7 (on keyservers) FP: 0124 2584 8809 EF2A DBF9 4902 64B4 D16B 2998 93C7 _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )