Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05.01.10 08:36, Martin Aspeli wrote: >> +1. It puts the final nail in the Zope 3 coffin and allows a reborn >> vampire to emerge from slumber. > > Ok, we all hate the damage that Zope 3 did and I have no problem to call > one of the x Zope Webframeworks "Bluebream", but I would like to save > the trademark from vanishing completely. > > What we have now are a bunch of Webframeworks built upon the ZTK. One of > these frameworks is called Zope 2 for historical reasons. So if you tell > the Zope story, you might end up with a story without a hero:
Maybe we'll go back to the future, so the framework is Zope and the version number is 2. :-) > We have the ZTK in the center and some other peripheral libraries and we > have Grok, Zope2, Bluebream, BFG, bobo and Humpty Dumpty, all great > frameworks. We can even call them Zope Frameworks, but where is Zope in > this story? What is Zope? > > Possible solution: > If all of the ZTK is in the namespace zope someday, why don't we call > the ZTK "Zope", as it seems to be the heart of all these webframeworks? The Z in ZTK stands for Zope. It's not useful "on its own", though, so calling it just "Zope" would be confusing as hell. > Then we can tell a story where there are different cool webframeworks > based on Zope (former ZTK) which is a well defined set of libraries to > do component-based web-development. Please, let's not make anything "former ZTK". That name is just starting to stick. Martin -- Author of `Professional Plone Development`, a book for developers who want to work with Plone. See http://martinaspeli.net/plone-book _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )