I like Bream. BlueBream or Blue Bream.
Just change the name Zope3 so we get over it eventually.
I'm a "zope3" user btw !
2010/1/5 Lennart Regebro <rege...@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 16:55, Gediminas Paulauskas <mene...@pov.lt> wrote:
>> If we released "Zope 3 the web framework" as version 3.5, little would
>> change for existing Zope 3 users since it still includes all zope.app
>> packages with backward compatibility imports. Wasn't this the plan
>> last year? I see no more confusion than was before, only less. The
>> reasons mentioned here are now false, because Zope 3.5 is based on
>> ZTK, Zope 2.12 is based on ZTK, and Grok is based on ZTK. Explanations
>> written at http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/ are still true, and after
>> renaming some occurrences of "Zope 3" to ZTK, Zope 3.5 KGS would be
>> the same "Zope 3" thing as Zope 3.4 was.
> Absolutely. But the confusion between Zope 3 and Zope 2 persists.
> Renaming Zope 3 in to "Bream" or "Blue Bream" or "BlueBream" (see
> there, a good reason for just "Bream") gets rid of that confusion. I
> don't think corporate people in general has a problem with renaming.
> Renaming would also partly circumvent the "Oh no zope" reaction that
> you *still* get from Python people, and which is almost exclusively
> based on the unpythonishness of Zope 2.
> I'm not a Zope 3 developer, so I explicitly do not vote, as I don't
> think I should have a say. :-) But I think a renaming would be
> But in the end this is yet another "non-decision". It is up to
> whoever makes a Zope 3.5 KGS. If, for example, Baiju and Stephan
> decides they want to do that, and they decide they want to call it
> "Bream", then Bream it is. If say, Jan and Gediminas makes a 3.5 KGS,
> and they don't want to rename it, then it will still be called "Zope".
> In fact, it's perfectly possible to do both, but that *would* be
> confusing as then Bream in fact would become a Zope 3 fork, not a new
> name for Zope 3, so that would probably be less than ideal.
> There is also the absolute possibility that no 3.5 KGS ever happens,
> in which case this discussion is moot.
> So: Talk less, do more. ;-)
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