At Stardate 20030623.2058, Jan Coffey wrote:
> If that is true, then why is the crime rate in the US so high? If your > statement is correct, the crime rate in the US should be significantly > lower than it is now, given the number of fire arms in private hands.
What is your basis for comparison? Where do you get the information that crime in the US is higher than elsewhere? It isn't ans in fact where we have conceled carry laws it is even lower.
Besides, being so restricted that you have no freedom is just as much a crime.
How are strict gun laws "so restrictive that you have no freedom"? The Netherlands has very strict gun laws, but I have plenty of freedoms.
> >If Universal medical care is so greate, then why do tens of thousands of > >people from all over the world (including Europe) come to the US to get > >medical care? > > First, not all countries have universal medical care. Second, getting > medical care abroad is sometimes necessary because of waiting lists for > medical procedures.
So if we had UMC we would have waiting lists? No thanks.
The waiting lists are not caused by us having universal health care, the waiting lists are caused by the fact that we don't have enough hospital beds, equipment and staff to help everyone immediately.
> And fourth, some treatments are still so new (or even still experimental) > that you can only get that treatment in only one place.
And they are being discovered becouse we don't have socialized medicin. Take that away and it would all slow down like it has in the European nations with socialized medicin.
This is nonsense. Our "socialised medicine" means that (through taxes and insurance premiums) everyone contributes in the cost of medical *care*. The medical *research* however is not paid for by the people but by commercial companies.
> >BTW if anyone, no matter how unable to pay, walks into a "general" > >hospital for medial service they will not be turned down. have you seen > >statistics on what country has the longest lives and the best health? > > Longer lives and best health depend on the *quality* of the health care, > not on whether or not you have universal health care.
And *quality* is exactly why we do not. Our "walk in" health care is done by the same doctors as the paying customer.
Same thing over here: doctors treat patients regardless of who pays the bill.
> Why on earth would the rest of the world want to launch an economic war > against the US? Pretty much every country in the world imports goods from, > and exports goods to, the US. They wouldn't have anything to gain from this > alleged "economic war".
BS. Of course they would. That is how we beat the Soviets. It certainly was adventagous for us.
That still doesn't answer the question of why other countries would want to launch an economic war against the US. The US waged economic war against the Soviet Union because they were waging a military war against each other (a Cold War, but a war nonetheless). AFAIK, no country is currently at war with the US, and even if a country were, it would never be able to win an economic war against the US. That could perhaps happen if a large number of countries would all be at war with the US and then work together to ruin the US economy, but there is no substantial group of countries engaged in such a military conflict with the US.
So, what would all those other countries have to gain from an economic war against the US? And how could they possibly *win* such a war?
While Europe may take a "big governemnt" stance, in the US we prefer to make changes based on education. Why make a bunch of laws and red tape when you could simply teach people what the right thing is?
Because people don't always listen.
Jeroen van Baardwijk
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