--- Jorpho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >But the way the ICC is set up, they would not recieve a trial by their
> > >peers. Without that we do not beleive that IUPG works.
> >
> > Then you really need to study how things are done in other countries.
> I'll
> > use The Netherlands as an example: we don't have trial by jury here, but
> > people are still considered innocent until proven guilty. In every
> > civilised country in the world, people are considered innocent until
> proven
> > guilty -- and I bet that most of those countries don't have trial by
> jury.
> >
> > The difference is that over here we leave decisions about
> guilty/not-guilty
> > to people who have actually been trained to do this (the judges), not to
> a
> > small group of people who usually have never even seen the inside of a
> Law
> > School, let alone graduated from one.
> >
> > Really, I don't understand why anyone would want to leave such decisions
> to
> > a bunch of untrained amateurs. After all, when you're feeling sick, who
> > would you turn to for the diagnosis: a trained professional (a physician)
> > or a small group of "peers" who haven't had extensive medical training?
>
> Indeed. I have read some criticism that trial by jury is not that it's all
> cracked up to be. For instance, there was once court case where the baliff
> happened to cough before delivering a guilty verdict to the judge, who
> interpreted his statement as "not guilty". There was a lengthy, costly
> tangle in the legal system before the mistake could be righted.
>
> It has been said that there is a certain dramatic allure to the whole
> secret
> process of sending the jury off to deliberate before unveiling with a
> flourish what they agreed on, without any consderation given to how they
> arrived at this conclusion. But it might also be said that it would be too
> costly to train large numbers of people in the minutae of the law.
>
> -J
>
I trust an average person taken from the street far more than I would trust
someone who does it for a living.
That is too much power, and IMO Judges already have too much power.
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