On February 28, 2024 7:08:14 AM UTC, Andreas Tille <andr...@an3as.eu> wrote:
>Hi Scott,
>
>Am Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 11:54:01PM +0000 schrieb Scott Kitterman:
>> It's self-induced.  I mean if it's demotivating to have people point out 
>> that you didn't follow the policy, then you can solve that all by yourself 
>> by following the policy.  If I take your argument to its logical conclusion, 
>> all of Debian's rules can be demotivating when people ignore them, so we 
>> should get rid of them all so your feelings are safe.
>
>I agree that it was my mistake to not follow team policy.  I should not
>have done this and I apologized for this.  I should have written this
>e-mail first to change a policy that does not fit my experiences in
>other teams as well as what obviously several contributors consider
>inappropriate.  To solve this I started this discussion and meanwhile
>created a MR[1].
>
>The demotivating part was the wording to point me to the policy.  I
>addressed this with the words "I wonder whether I should propose another
>change to the policy about maintaining a kind and polite language inside
>the team - but that's a different thing." in my initial mail[2].
>
>To make sure this will really clear I added the proposed change in a
>second MR[3] containing the following diff:

This makes more sense to me.  It is completely understandable that how things 
are communicated affects how people feel about them.  This is a difficult thing 
to get right.  I have experienced similar demotivating conversations in Debian 
myself.

Everyone in Debian is already bound by the code of conduct already, so it seems 
redundant to add it here again.  While I agree with the principle you are 
trying to address, I think this change unnecessarily clutters the DPT document 
and we should not make it.

Scott K

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