Am 08/14/2013 09:39 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Hagar Delest<hagar.del...@laposte.net> wrote:
Le 14/08/2013 21:29, Hagar Delest a écrit :
Le 14/08/2013 21:01, Raphael Bircher a écrit :
I like the idea of a public beta. But consider the numbers. The 40
or so regressions that were reported came from an install base (based
on download figures since 4.0.0 was released) of around 3 million
users. Realistically, can we expect anywhere near that number in a
public beta? Or is it more likely that a beta program has 10,000
users or fewer? I don't know the answer here. But certainly a
well-publicized and used beta will find more than a beta used by just
a few hundred users.
The public beta is from my point of view realy important. Even you have
only 10'000 Downloads of a beta, you have normaly verry experianced Users
there, like power users from Companies. They provide realy valua feedback.
So from my point of view, this is one of the moast important changes we have
to do. For all Feature release a beta version. And don't forget, people are
realy happy to do beta tests. but many of them are maybe not willing to
follow a mailing list.
+1.
OOo used to have RC versions strongly advertised, it could go up to 6 RC
before going final and it was very useful to spot the main bugs.
And I forgot: the 2 main bugs (slow saving in MS Office formats and the Calc
display issue under Windows) were reported in the forum only 2 days and 5
days after the release! and we have had many topics for both afterward. A RC
would have clearly spared the hassle.
See:
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=63082
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=63161
Maybe we need to call an earlier build the "RC" so it will get more
attention? We had a complete test build that we were testing for
over a month. But maybe it is ignored unless we call it an "RC"? In
other words, there were many opportunities for users to help try 4.0
before it was released, but maybe there opportunities were not well
known.
Déjà vu ;-)
I remember that we had the same problem in the old project.
Call it "Developer Snapshot" and you will have a few hundreads downloads
with respective number of feedback. But call it (and announce it!) with
a name that sounds more familar (like Early Access, Preview, Beta, RC)
then we had much more. So, going public more early should bring us a
higher number of feedback.
Marcus
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