On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 08/14/2013 09:39 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Hagar > Delest<hagar.delest@laposte.**net<hagar.del...@laposte.net>> >> wrote: >> >>> Le 14/08/2013 21:29, Hagar Delest a écrit : >>> >>> Le 14/08/2013 21:01, Raphael Bircher a écrit : >>>> >>>> I like the idea of a public beta. But consider the numbers. The 40 >>>>>> or so regressions that were reported came from an install base (based >>>>>> on download figures since 4.0.0 was released) of around 3 million >>>>>> users. Realistically, can we expect anywhere near that number in a >>>>>> public beta? Or is it more likely that a beta program has 10,000 >>>>>> users or fewer? I don't know the answer here. But certainly a >>>>>> well-publicized and used beta will find more than a beta used by just >>>>>> a few hundred users. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The public beta is from my point of view realy important. Even you have >>>>> only 10'000 Downloads of a beta, you have normaly verry experianced >>>>> Users >>>>> there, like power users from Companies. They provide realy valua >>>>> feedback. >>>>> So from my point of view, this is one of the moast important changes >>>>> we have >>>>> to do. For all Feature release a beta version. And don't forget, >>>>> people are >>>>> realy happy to do beta tests. but many of them are maybe not willing to >>>>> follow a mailing list. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> +1. >>>> OOo used to have RC versions strongly advertised, it could go up to 6 RC >>>> before going final and it was very useful to spot the main bugs. >>>> >>>> And I forgot: the 2 main bugs (slow saving in MS Office formats and >>> the Calc >>> display issue under Windows) were reported in the forum only 2 days and 5 >>> days after the release! and we have had many topics for both afterward. >>> A RC >>> would have clearly spared the hassle. >>> >>> See: >>> http://forum.openoffice.org/**en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=**63082<http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=63082> >>> http://forum.openoffice.org/**en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=**63161<http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=63161> >>> >>> >> >> Maybe we need to call an earlier build the "RC" so it will get more >> attention? We had a complete test build that we were testing for >> over a month. But maybe it is ignored unless we call it an "RC"? In >> other words, there were many opportunities for users to help try 4.0 >> before it was released, but maybe there opportunities were not well >> known. >> > > Déjà vu ;-) > > I remember that we had the same problem in the old project. > > Call it "Developer Snapshot" and you will have a few hundreads downloads > with respective number of feedback. But call it (and announce it!) with a > name that sounds more familar (like Early Access, Preview, Beta, RC) then > we had much more. So, going public more early should bring us a higher > number of feedback. > > Marcus If this would help, then we should do it. Hopefully this will get users' attention more. > > > > ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org<dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "When in doubt, cop an attitude." -- Cat laws
