My cats have destroyed my new furniture, but I love my cats much much more than I like my furniture, and declawing has never been an option at my house. I voice my opinion as much as possible on that subject. But I have found that some people think that just goes along with having a cat. What totally pisses me off is the ones that declaw and then decide to put them outside!!
Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2011, at 11:06 PM, katskat1 <katsk...@gmail.com> wrote: > Just add this to the consideration. > > To summarize, 'declawing' is a misnomer. When a cat is 'declawed' > they are having their toes amputated at the first knuckle. Period. > > Now, think about you having all ten toes cut off at the first knuckle. > > Kat > > On 8/26/11, Gloria Lane <gbl...@aristotle.net> wrote: >> Problem is declawing is so harmful to adult cats- painful, hard to adjust >> to, it can ruin them. Not right for kittens, but for adults it's just mean, >> torturous. Just not a good thing to do. There are places that allow cats w >> claws but folks may not think bout that till the last thing. But then >> grandma or whoever dies or goes to an Alzheimer's facility and then who >> wants a cat ruined by declaw. >> >> Gloria >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 26, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Kelley Saveika <moonv...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It wouldn't be you going without the cat, it would be the cat going >>> without you. I have seen cats given up by their owners grieve and mourn >>> themselves TO DEATH. I've seen cats given away by their owners be fine. >>> I've seen cats who have been declawed suffer. I have seen cats who have >>> been declawed do absolutely fine. It isn't all as easy as it looks >>> sometimes. >>> >>> I have not had a cat declawed but I did have one who had to have a >>> mastectomy and who I am sure would have been in horrible pain had it not >>> been for the oral pain meds the vet prescribed. I would hope any vet >>> doing declaw surgery would provide pain meds. >>> >>> At any rate I'm 44 so hopefully it would be a while before I went into a >>> nursing home. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>> I would seriously consider declawing very, very seriously– it is the most >>> devastating thing for a cat. Knowing what I do, I would be more >>> heartbroken doing it to a beloved cat than being without the cat, trust >>> me. I wonder how a cat would feel if >>> >>> he/she knew that it had a choice between missing the owner or having their >>> paws mutilated? According to Dr. Nicholas Doddman, who wrote The Cat that >>> Cried for Help, after declawing surgery, cats feel such extreme pain that >>> they either climb the walls of the cage or sit completely morose and >>> cowering in the corner, something that their owners will never see. I >>> have a copy of an article written for NY Times Magazine a few years ago, >>> where a woman writes about declawing her older cat because her mother’s >>> oriental rug was being scratched up. It is one of my hand-out’s to >>> adopters – the story is heartbreaking, and very typical. After the >>> hurricane is over, I will scan it and post it. It is probably the best >>> I’ve read, without going into the gory details of declawing. >>> >>> Natalie >>> >>> >>> >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika >>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:22 PM >>> >>> >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors >>> >>> >>> Sorry! This is a 62 email thread in gmail. I don't know how your email >>> program organizes stuff. Anyway I did not look at the date. >>> >>> I've seen cats (especially senior cats) mourn their owners literally to >>> death after being given away, and honestly in that case I'd rather declaw >>> them. Hopefully I will not need to make that choice. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>> >>> OMG – you are responding to a post from March……I thought that I was going >>> crazy and somehow missed a whole thread of talking about declawing, NOW! >>> >>> >>> >>> There are also some apartments that allow cats ONLY if they are declawed…I >>> guess they prefer taking their chances of those cats peeing everywhere >>> instead of possibly scratching something, and it would most likely be the >>> tenants’ own furniture! >>> >>> >>> >>> I would rather give my cat away than declaw it – especially when it’s an >>> older cat – it’s so much harder on them (not that it isn’t on young(er) >>> cats). >>> >>> >>> >>> There needs to be a lot of education on declawing and what the >>> psychological/emotional and physical effects can take be. We have had a >>> few abandoned declawed cats, and I have witnessed almost all of them…..but >>> all the damage had already been done, and what was I to do – throw them >>> out or kill them? I found some homes that understood the ramifications >>> and dealt with the problems as well as they could. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika >>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:45 PM >>> >>> >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors >>> >>> >>> >>> Because if the owner has to go into the nursing home and is fortunate >>> enough to find one where they can take their cat, the nursing home is >>> likely to require declawing. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>> >>> That is true, but I don't understand why an old person can't have a cat >>> with >>> claws. Dealing mostly with feral cats, I have never been bitten or >>> scratched - what's the danger, I am 70 yrs old. And as I said, bites are >>> a >>> natural defense for declawed cats! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. >>> >>> http://www.rescuties.org >>> >>> Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! >>> >>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 >>> >>> http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* >>> >>> Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! >>> http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties >>> >>> >>> >>> Please help Trooper! >>> >>> >>> >>> http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper >>> >>> >>> >>> "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they >>> can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they >>> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." >>> >>> >>> >>> - Nathan Winograd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. >>> >>> http://www.rescuties.org >>> >>> Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! >>> >>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 >>> >>> http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* >>> >>> Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! >>> http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties >>> >>> Please help Trooper! >>> >>> http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper >>> >>> >>> "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they >>> can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they >>> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." >>> >>> - Nathan Winograd >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
