The best furniture is wooden futons......and bentwood chairs, that's what we have in the kitchen and the TV room, where most cats are.
-----Original Message----- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 8:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors My thoughts exactly! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcia Baronda" <marciabmar...@gmail.com> To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors > My cats have destroyed my new furniture, but I love my cats much much more > than I like my furniture, and declawing has never been an option at my > house. I voice my opinion as much as possible on that subject. But I have > found that some people think that just goes along with having a cat. What > totally pisses me off is the ones that declaw and then decide to put them > outside!! > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 26, 2011, at 11:06 PM, katskat1 <katsk...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just add this to the consideration. >> >> To summarize, 'declawing' is a misnomer. When a cat is 'declawed' >> they are having their toes amputated at the first knuckle. Period. >> >> Now, think about you having all ten toes cut off at the first knuckle. >> >> Kat >> >> On 8/26/11, Gloria Lane <gbl...@aristotle.net> wrote: >>> Problem is declawing is so harmful to adult cats- painful, hard to >>> adjust >>> to, it can ruin them. Not right for kittens, but for adults it's just >>> mean, >>> torturous. Just not a good thing to do. There are places that allow >>> cats w >>> claws but folks may not think bout that till the last thing. But then >>> grandma or whoever dies or goes to an Alzheimer's facility and then who >>> wants a cat ruined by declaw. >>> >>> Gloria >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 26, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Kelley Saveika <moonv...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It wouldn't be you going without the cat, it would be the cat going >>>> without you. I have seen cats given up by their owners grieve and >>>> mourn >>>> themselves TO DEATH. I've seen cats given away by their owners be >>>> fine. >>>> I've seen cats who have been declawed suffer. I have seen cats who >>>> have >>>> been declawed do absolutely fine. It isn't all as easy as it looks >>>> sometimes. >>>> >>>> I have not had a cat declawed but I did have one who had to have a >>>> mastectomy and who I am sure would have been in horrible pain had it >>>> not >>>> been for the oral pain meds the vet prescribed. I would hope any vet >>>> doing declaw surgery would provide pain meds. >>>> >>>> At any rate I'm 44 so hopefully it would be a while before I went into >>>> a >>>> nursing home. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>>> I would seriously consider declawing very, very seriously– it is the >>>> most >>>> devastating thing for a cat. Knowing what I do, I would be more >>>> heartbroken doing it to a beloved cat than being without the cat, trust >>>> me. I wonder how a cat would feel if >>>> >>>> he/she knew that it had a choice between missing the owner or having >>>> their >>>> paws mutilated? According to Dr. Nicholas Doddman, who wrote The Cat >>>> that >>>> Cried for Help, after declawing surgery, cats feel such extreme pain >>>> that >>>> they either climb the walls of the cage or sit completely morose and >>>> cowering in the corner, something that their owners will never see. I >>>> have a copy of an article written for NY Times Magazine a few years >>>> ago, >>>> where a woman writes about declawing her older cat because her mother’s >>>> oriental rug was being scratched up. It is one of my hand-out’s to >>>> adopters – the story is heartbreaking, and very typical. After the >>>> hurricane is over, I will scan it and post it. It is probably the best >>>> I’ve read, without going into the gory details of declawing. >>>> >>>> Natalie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley >>>> Saveika >>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:22 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors >>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry! This is a 62 email thread in gmail. I don't know how your >>>> email >>>> program organizes stuff. Anyway I did not look at the date. >>>> >>>> I've seen cats (especially senior cats) mourn their owners literally to >>>> death after being given away, and honestly in that case I'd rather >>>> declaw >>>> them. Hopefully I will not need to make that choice. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> OMG – you are responding to a post from March……I thought that I was >>>> going >>>> crazy and somehow missed a whole thread of talking about declawing, >>>> NOW! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There are also some apartments that allow cats ONLY if they are >>>> declawed…I >>>> guess they prefer taking their chances of those cats peeing everywhere >>>> instead of possibly scratching something, and it would most likely be >>>> the >>>> tenants’ own furniture! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I would rather give my cat away than declaw it – especially when it’s >>>> an >>>> older cat – it’s so much harder on them (not that it isn’t on young(er) >>>> cats). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There needs to be a lot of education on declawing and what the >>>> psychological/emotional and physical effects can take be. We have had >>>> a >>>> few abandoned declawed cats, and I have witnessed almost all of >>>> them…..but >>>> all the damage had already been done, and what was I to do – throw them >>>> out or kill them? I found some homes that understood the ramifications >>>> and dealt with the problems as well as they could. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley >>>> Saveika >>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:45 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Because if the owner has to go into the nursing home and is fortunate >>>> enough to find one where they can take their cat, the nursing home is >>>> likely to require declawing. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> That is true, but I don't understand why an old person can't have a cat >>>> with >>>> claws. Dealing mostly with feral cats, I have never been bitten or >>>> scratched - what's the danger, I am 70 yrs old. And as I said, bites >>>> are >>>> a >>>> natural defense for declawed cats! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. >>>> >>>> http://www.rescuties.org >>>> >>>> Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! >>>> >>>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 >>>> >>>> http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* >>>> >>>> Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! >>>> http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please help Trooper! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they >>>> can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that >>>> they >>>> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - Nathan Winograd >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. >>>> >>>> http://www.rescuties.org >>>> >>>> Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! >>>> >>>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 >>>> >>>> http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* >>>> >>>> Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! >>>> http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties >>>> >>>> Please help Trooper! >>>> >>>> http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper >>>> >>>> >>>> "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they >>>> can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that >>>> they >>>> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." >>>> >>>> - Nathan Winograd >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
