In <4e35f6d3.9090...@bcs.org.uk>, on 08/01/2011 at 01:44 AM, CM Poncelet <ponce...@bcs.org.uk> said:
>The 'acid test' is whether the same program DCB (ignoring the MACRF= >and EODAD=) can be used *both* for OUTPUT and for INPUT (with a >change in MACFR= and adding EODAD= when opening for INPUT), when the >dataset's physical DCB attributes on DASD are *different* from those >specified in the program. No. The acid test is whether the system behaves in accordance with the published documentation. It does. >when the dataset's physical DCB attributes on DASD There is no such thing. >If this DCB is opened for OUTPUT (MACRF=PM|L), then the program's >DCB attributes override those on DASD - and the program's DCB >attributes then also become those stored on DASD, all without >causing I/O errors. No. An incorrect BLKSIZE on output could also cause an I/O error, back when there where DASD with tracks smaller than 32 KiB. >If the same DCB is opened for INPUT (MACRF=GM|L,EODAD=<etc.>), then >the program's DCB attributes do *not* override those on DASD Were that true then there wouldn't be an I/O error. >and, as the program's DCB attributes are inconsistent They wouldn't be inconsistent if they didn't override. <more nonsense clipped> >high-falluting semantics Like the NCO's in Basic Training who argued "high-falluting semantics" for no better reason than a prejudice against our killing each other with "unloaded" rifles. The word "semantics" doesn't mean what you believe it means. In <4e35f8cb.7090...@bcs.org.uk>, on 08/01/2011 at 01:52 AM, CM Poncelet <ponce...@bcs.org.uk> said: >We are arguing semantics ... Indeed, but "semantics" doesn't mean what you believe. Essentially all arguments are about semantics. In <4e360d24.4010...@bcs.org.uk>, on 08/01/2011 at 03:19 AM, CM Poncelet <ponce...@bcs.org.uk> said: >No, what I am saying is correct. ROTF,LMAO! >What matters is not whether a program can open a DCB for input >(trivial), but whether that DCB then actually works. No, what matters is whether the results are in accordance with the published documentation or in accordance with your beliefs. >argumentum ad hominem? No. Ridicule of a an inference with false premises. In <4e3618ba.8050...@bcs.org.uk>, on 08/01/2011 at 04:08 AM, CM Poncelet <ponce...@bcs.org.uk> said: >when I can think for myself. Obviously not. Otherwise you wouldn't keep insisting that you don't need to read the manuals. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html> We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html