On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 20:11:27 +0100, CM Poncelet <ponce...@bcs.org.uk> wrote:

>Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
>>
>> His example used RECFM=FB, so there are no BDWs and no RDWs (if there
>> were, then the first four bytes of the second record would be the RDW,
>> not data).
>
>Yes ... and I am writing from memory, 

Obviously, and your memory is in error.  It would help if you would check 
a reference manual rather than continuing to post incorrect information, 
even after having been corrected multiple times.

>But in
>any case the BDW and RDW would not be loaded into the buffer. 

Wrong again.  The BDW and RDW of a variable length data set are 
part of the data in the buffer.

>> Requisite manuals are
>> available online. While "Using Data Sets" is a bit daunting, it
>> contains most of the information.
>
>I have no time for that. 

Then why do you have time to post so much incorrect information?

>If something is true it can remember itself; 

Oh, really?

>Do you expect me to *remember*
>system control blocks?

Actually, no, I don't.  But I do expect you to check what you post.  We 
all occasionally post incorrectly from memory, some of us more often than 
others.  Most of us will at least look it up after someone points out that 
what we posted was wrong.  You, on the other hand, repeatedly post the 
same erroneous information and steadfastly refuse to look it up.  Because 
of that, I don't expect you to *know* what you are talking about.

> I have been reading system dumps for more than 25 years

Well, good for you.  I've been doing it for 40.  I think Gerhard has been 
doing it for considerably longer and I know that Shmuel has.


>This topic is about the order
>of priority of DCB attributes when opening a dataset for input v.
>output,

And your insistence that there is a difference in the priority of filling in 
the DCB between input and output is demonstrably wrong.  There is no 
difference.  The DCB is filled in exactly the same way.  If you don't believe 
me, take  dump after opening a data set for input and see what the 
values are.  Let me guess.  you don't have time for that either.

-- 
Tom Marchant

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