Hi Shari, The system i have installed is not one you buy at the store due to it's size. They trenched all around and I have a bigger transmitter box up at my barn. It will work with the less expensive collars at Pet smart, but they don't give me as many options as the ones I have. Rhett my standard is on 2 or doesn't even wear one 1/2 the time. Labs are on 5, doodles 3-7...Tucker is on 4...so compliant, Dancer is up to 7 since she was soooooo heck bent on following my car or me down the drive way.......finally got that stopped......If a dogs needs a 10, there is an aftershock punishment option.......Sadie my short hair is the only one on that. I don't even start them on the fence until they are about 4-5 mos old. Since I have Rhett I really don't get males snooping around. Never a stray cat......the word is out it would be a suicide mission I'm sure........ I do get other female dogs though from time to time...... I'm in the process of converting my barn into some safe areas to put my dogs when I'm not home. 2 of my horse stalls are 12x12 rooms which will have doggie doors that open to a big coverd ajoining run. One of these is my nurseray but when no pupppies I can use it for adults too. We just took down my kids play set after 17 years....kind of sad.......its a 20x24 area near the house that I will fence in for a puppy play area and safe area to put my dogs when I'm not home.......As it is now if anyone comes to visit they have quite a welcoming committee...... So glad to hear Timmy is doing to well with his litter girl, all the boys must have great temeraments....His brother Tucker is a love.......he is so small Shari you wouldn't believe it.....Still only 17 inches tall and about 37 lbs.......I trimmed all that puppy fuzz off him due to early matting and hes soft rich curls all over....... Sleeps by my bed and Dancer is under my nightstand, Tuck wakes me up every morning about 6:45 with a sloppy smooch......... Coyotes and doodles......ekkkkkkk not a good mix........ Carol
Olympic Labradoodles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Carol I didn't know about the after shocks after they pass through. Which system do you have? That was my biggest complaint when we put ours up was that my big Pyrenees/Shepherd boy decided the initial shock of going through was worth the price of freedom. Of course coming home he sat on the outside and barked until I came out and turned it off and let him in! Do your collars individually have the settings? It has been years since I had my system so maybe they have really made some nice improvements. My other complaint was it didn't keep anything out. Right now we have two dogs at the end of the road who have killed two other dogs and I am thankful I have a full fence up! We also have coyotes who come around and howl in the bushes outside the fence when they sniff girls in heat! Yikes on that one!! Shari At 08:03 AM 3/27/2007 -0700, you wrote: >My german shorthair pointer is the reason i put the fence in to begin >with......LONG before I started doodling......She killed at least 10 >neiborhood cats and had a warrent out for her arrest. I had to fork out a >couple of thousand dollars worth of medical vet bills for the neigbors >animals........Her prey drive was feroucious......if it hissed at her it >was going to DIE! ;( > >She is my only dog on the highest shock orf 10 with 10 after shocks if she >decides to pass through it......I also took the warning beep-s off all my >collars since these dogs think their are so SMART and have figured out if >it didn't beep the fence, was not on.......hmmmm >So now they just don't know, if the batteries are dead or if there is a >power failure or a short in the line......and stay put.......:) > >I have sold more of these things than I can tell you. When people come to >pi! ck up thier puppies and see 8 dogs running along the fence line but >not getting in the road they are amazed....they actually will run along >side a jogger, just stay within 10 feet inside of out property line....... > >Our horse has figured out if she stands by the fence the dogs will leave >her alone..hehehe > >Carol > ><http://www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com>www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com > > >Abigail Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>The only thing that I can say about underground fencing is to make sure >>that you do a VERY good job of training him to the boundaries. Countless >>dogs come into the shelters with electric fence collars on because the >>dog ran out chasing something (the prey drive overcame the fear of the >>shock) and then they are afraid to come back into the yard. I have also >>known a few people who, after the dog was shocked once wouldn't go >>outside for fear of being shocked again. My good friend just finished >>having to re-potty train her dog after it got shocked and didn't want to >>go outside. >> That said, aside for that one instance with my friends dog, all of >> their other dogs do really well with them and it is nice to be able to >> have them outside more often than if you just had a tie out or leash >> walks. I would LOVE to be able to put one in but I have a VERY prey >> driven border collie who is a cat killer and we have a lot of cats that >> roam in our area. >> Good luck, >> Abbie >> >>buttafamily5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>Hi all, >>> >>>We have a very quiet large yard bordered by woods and a golf course -- >>>but I still need to have the peace of mind of keeping Dempsey from >>>wandering off now that spring is here and we will be spending more >>>time outside. So I am looking at different containment systems, but >>>there are so many and I find it all a bit over-whelming. There are the >>>buried wire invisible fencing type with the collar. Like this: >>><http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84 >>>5524441775933&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032911&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_ >>>id=2534374302023689&bmUID=1175002906655&itemNo=0&In=Dog&N=2032911&Ne=2>ht >>>tp://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail! >>>.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441775933&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302 >>>032911&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302023689&bmUID=1175002906655&itemNo >>>=0&In=Dog&N=2032911&Ne=2 >>> >>>OR this: >>><http://www.gundogsupply.com/prf-3004w-.html>http://www.gundogsupply.com/ >>>prf-3004w-.html >>> >>>OR the hand-held remote type of trainers like this: >>><http://www.gundogsupply.com/iut-300.html>http://www.gundogsupply.com/iut >>>-300.html >>> >>>I like the price of the walkie-talkie type. But I want something that >>>if I'm not watching him every second while outside, it will keep him >>>in the yard. I'm not sure if these do that. Does anyone know the >>>difference and can advise as to what brand or what exactly will work >>>for us. Dempsey is about 25 pounds and generally stays with us when >>>outside, but if something catches his interest, like a bird or a >>>blowing leaf, he will start to get further away. An actual fence is >>>not practical for us. I know someone here was talking about this >>>earlier. Thanks so very much! I can't wait to let him romp outside >>>when the mud dries and the temps warm a little! >>> >>>Donna >> >> >> >>Abigail S. Morrison >> >> Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. ~Thomas Jefferson~ >> >>The fish are biting. >>contact: 770 972 7678 >> 404 849 5557 >> >> Fondly, Carol Southern Charm Labradoodles www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com contact: 770 972 7678 404 849 5557