On Fri, Jan 10, 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about "Re: RMS over Humous - meeting summery": > I also agree with some things that RMS says. I do disagree with his > ideas about freedom though on a vary basic level, but I will only > discuss that over some free beer. ;-) On this list it would be > off-topic.
I don't know what your "basic disagreements" are (I guess I'll have to buy you a beer to find out :)), but one obvious (and often-stated) objection goes something like that "What, we don't have freedom? Just look at the people at <some-other-country-with-less-freedom>. They can't even do <this> or <that>! So don't go whine about not being able to copy software." This is obviously true, but like Stallman says: when you consider freedom important, and your best (and perhaps only) skill is programming, the best (and perhaps only) thing you could do for humanity is to apply those skills for "the cause". I.e., write free software. On the other hand, if you're a good politician, a charismatic leader, then indeed you might do the country more good by doing something about more fundumental issues of freedom (civil rights, etc.). Another common objection, especially in the US in last two years, is "If we had any more freedom, the terrorists will get us!" But anybody with a little sense in his or her head can figure out that terrorists are NOT in the business of copying software, or even downloading mp3 music from the net. P.S. Stallman loves to use the word "Freedom", which is why we're discussing this value so much now. But I believe that Stallman's words (part of which I summarized in my fake interview yesterday) should be interpreted more broadly to say: "Free Software is important because of its values, not because of its practical advantages". I don't believe that Freedom is the only value that should be mentioned in this regard. In my essays (sorry for the usual plug: [1]) I explained why I believe that two other values should be stressed as well when discussing the moral advantages of free software: Equality and Fraternity. Richard Stallman does agree with me that these two values are also important, but he rarely mentions them - maybe because of pedagogical reasons ("focus your aim") or because he really thinks they are less important. He did mention those values, though, in [2] (you'll need to be able to read French to read this speech that Stallman gave in 1998 in Paris). [1] http://nadav.harel.org.il/essays/chofesh/index.html [2] http://www.april.org/actions/rms/10111998/texte.html -- Nadav Har'El | Saturday, Jan 11 2003, 8 Shevat 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |----------------------------------------- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Guarantee: this email is 100% free of http://nadav.harel.org.il |magnetic monopoles, or your money back! ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]