No problem, Anthony. I did not feel "fussed" at all about this 8c business. I quite understand what you mean, but my conclusion will nevertheless be that a compromise will remain a compromise, i.e. something imperfect and by nature unsatisfying... So, after that, it's only a matter of how much you accept to give up, but what remains will necessarily be... a compromise ! (La Palisse was French, wasn't he? So was Descartes and Coluche <g>).
Only one way out : the basic outfit should be something like one 6 c., one 7c., one 8c., one 10 c., one 11c. and more if you, and your banker, feel like it ! ;-) All the best, Jean-Marie ======= 03-04-2008 15:30:42 ======= >Jean-Marie and Ed, > No derogatory remarks have come from me on the 8c. Again, I would >just like to say that if someone is hoping to play Francesco and >Dowland on the same lute, then 7c is surely the better choice, with >the 7c in D, that covers much 8c music with the possibility of >stopping the bass course. There are less additional sympathetic >resonances to colour the sound. It is also historically plausible, >while an 8c for Francesco probably is not; but perhaps I am wrong >there. It has been so frequently of late. On the other hand, if a >lutist wants to cover from Dowland to transitional, the 10c is a >better compromise (as shown by JaKob's Rauwolf). The 8c does not >really allow that, does it? > >I was taking account of what Rob said he was hoping to do. > >Also I will admit that I have usually heard 8c lute with wirewounds, >and the problem of sympathetic resonances are even worse. I think you >and Ed have your lutes gut strung, so the problem would be much less. > >I suppose for someone just specializing in later Elizabethan music >and its close European equivalents, an 8c strung entirely in gut >could be a good solution. >This is what Jacob Heringman uses on his Jane Pickeringe's Lute book, >on his 8 course Martin Haycock after Venere. see for example: >Track 04-Almaine by francis Cuttinge (1:35) >http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/heringman-pickering/04.m3u > >Now compare this with the 7c Gerle by the same maker, both are strung >in gut, and with same lutist of course: >http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/heringman-siena/07.m3u > >Do you think the 8c sound would function well with the Fantasia? It >is a question of taste, no doubt, but the maker himself, Martin >Haycock (while preferring a 6c lute) >advised the 7c for this multipurpose, and he also said that he was >less happy with 8c lutes in general, exactly for the reason mentioned >above. > >Indeed he told me that the two ideal lutes he would like to own >himself, would be the 11c and the 6c, both which he considered had >acheived the ideal balance of poise >and sound before having become over complexified. So no derogatory >remarks implied, but some justification, only slightly musicological. >Best regards >Anthony >PS Ed my mails rebounce, so you will receive this through the list > > >Le 3 avr. 08 à 13:02, Jean-Marie Poirier a écrit : > >> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://poirierjm.free.fr 03-04-2008
