Dear Alexander, I certainly did not mean to give the impression that you had suggested the Tenier picture had anything to do with Italian guitars of the period - it was purely my mistake which I tried to correct. But clearly clumsily and I'm sorry for not making it clearer.
But I do like the pilaster representation - thank you again for it. regards Martyn --- On Tue, 29/1/13, Alexander Batov <alexander.ba...@vihuelademano.com> wrote: From: Alexander Batov <alexander.ba...@vihuelademano.com> Subject: [LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy To: "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: "Lute Dmth" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Date: Tuesday, 29 January, 2013, 13:15 Hello Martyn, I understand perfectly well that the Tenier's picture has nothing to do with the 'Italian representation', and I'd never meant to represent it that way. That particular set of the pictures, as well as the other one further down the page ('anjo com viola' from Abrantes, Portugal), are only (mostly!) there just to illustrate how widespread such organological feature as asymmetrical arrangement of pegs was from country to country. So, in a way, it serves the opposite purpose to what you tried to extract from it! Perhaps you've got confused by my wording "in the context" next to the second link that I gave, which was supposed to mean "in the context of the article" describing that particular feature, not in the topic of our discussion, sorry about that. Alexander On 29/01/2013 10:56, Martyn Hodgson wrote: > Further to the below, on reflection I may be mistaken to describe the > Teniers picture as an Italian representation - whilst he worked mainly > in a part of the Hapsburg dominions I think a link to Italy is a bit > too speculative. But the pilaster representation is very clearly > Italian > > regards, > > Martyn To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html