Hello Both No, Matt it wasn't you it was Phil Ranson that did the original interview and recording. He was a librarian who did quite a bit of collecting. He lived near me when I lived in Wylam, he was at Hagg Bank a mile up the river and was a very down to earth Geordie lad. John A was an even more no nonsense man and player who impressed me deeply on the two or three occasions we met and had tunes together (Joe Hutton's and Archie Bertram's). I agree whith your main points but still claim a tenable stance in being puzzled by the whole thing. By the way the sound clip of John A playing is the perfect antidote to the 'hell for leather' approach so prevalent with most (but thankfully not all) youngsters at the moment. Anthony --- On Thu, 14/7/11, Matt Seattle <theborderpi...@googlemail.com> wrote:
From: Matt Seattle <theborderpi...@googlemail.com> Subject: [NSP] Re: Shield's H'pipe To: "Dartmouth NPS" <nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu> Date: Thursday, 14 July, 2011, 22:03 To make it absolutely clear, it was not I who attached the name Shield's to the soundclip. Whether the source - JA of C - gave it that title, I don't know. This is not impossible given the Clough connection. The FARNE Core Tunes article on Morpeth Rant (not my work) also gives the Shield attribution. On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Gibbons, John <[1][1]j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk> wrote: But isn't Matt just quoting the Cloughs' title there? Beware of secondary sources, in other words - they don't corroborate where they are drawn from. A citation of 'The Morpeth Rant' (new or old) from anyone but the Cloughs, with the Shields' title, from pre-1900 would be interesting - one from anywhere near as far back as 1770, when 'The Morpeth Rant' made its first virtual appearance, would be astonishing. John -- References 1. mailto:[2]j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://uk.mc873.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk 2. http://uk.mc873.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html