I see what you mean, although I'm quite happy with the default setup: as I say, it's in practical terms exactly the same as my XP screen. The program list is, of course, based on those most recently used. I don't know whether you've heard of or use a module named 'Fences' from Stardock Corporation - it allows you to set up blocks of desktop icons grouped however you wish, and it makes keeping frequently-used items to hand a doddle. Avoids the use of the Start button entirely!
John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -----Original Message----- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 5:55 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Windows 8 Makes Me Consider a Mac Quoting John Coyle <jco...@iinet.net.au>: > That sounds odd, Brian - I have a Start button and menu on my W7 > -64bit, and I don't recall using third-party software to set it up! > Apart from cosmetic changes, it's exactly the same as my XP machine's > Start design. > Hmmm. Well the Win 7 start menu is certainly different on mine. Here's the default Win 7 start menu on my PC: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Win7-Default.jpg And here's the 'Classic Shell' version which looks and works the same way as my old XP start menu: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Win7-ClassicShell.jpg ('Classic Shell' allows the user to switch back to the default menu if they want to. I don't!) My problem with the default Win 7 interface is the way the programs displayed on the left hand pane above the start button keep changing. I want to fix the programs (and groups of programs) that I use most there, and I can't with the default interface. Cheers Brian ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters > Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 3:19 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Windows 8 Makes Me Consider a Mac > > > Quoting John Coyle <jco...@iinet.net.au>: > >> Reviews in our local serious computer magazine, 'Australian Personal >> Computer', heartily endorse W8 for tablets, but suggest staying away >> from it for desktops, and not highly recommended for laptops. >> The biggest problem seem to be it is essentially >> touchscreen-oriented, and that's an issue with most desktop users - I >> certainly would not want to have to stretch out some 60-70cm. to >> touch my monitor to make things happen! It is possible to switch to >> the classic interface, but you have to do it on every reboot - it doesn't >> stay set. > > > > Yeah, but third party developers can take care of that problem. > > When MS dropped the classic start menu from Win 7 (and unlike Vista > didn't allow an option for users to drop back to the classic > interface), the absolutely wonderful and free 'Classic Shell' appeared > within a matter of months. I've been using it since I got my Win 7 > machine and have never needed to look at the bizarre Win 7 menu. > > Classic Shell now supports Win 8 so I assume it will enable booting > straight to the classic interface in that OS as well. > > > > -- > Cheers > > Brian > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Cheers Brian ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.