I see what you mean, although I'm quite happy with the default setup: as I say, 
it's in practical
terms exactly the same as my XP screen.  The program list is, of course, based 
on those most
recently used.
I don't know whether you've heard of or use a module named 'Fences' from 
Stardock  Corporation - it
allows you to set up blocks of desktop icons grouped however you wish, and it 
makes keeping
frequently-used items to hand a doddle.  Avoids the use of the Start button 
entirely!


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia





-----Original Message-----
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 5:55 PM
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Subject: Re: Windows 8 Makes Me Consider a Mac

Quoting John Coyle <jco...@iinet.net.au>:

> That sounds odd, Brian - I have a Start button and menu on my W7 
> -64bit, and I don't recall using third-party software to set it up!  
> Apart from cosmetic changes, it's exactly the same as my XP machine's 
> Start design.
>



Hmmm.  Well the Win 7 start menu is certainly different on mine.   
Here's the default Win 7 start menu on my PC:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Win7-Default.jpg


And here's the 'Classic Shell' version which looks and works the same way as my 
old XP start menu:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Win7-ClassicShell.jpg


('Classic Shell' allows the user to switch back to the default menu if they 
want to.  I don't!)

My problem with the default Win 7 interface is the way the programs  
displayed on the left hand pane above the start button keep changing.   
I want to fix the programs (and groups of programs) that I use most there, and 
I can't with the
default interface.



Cheers

Brian

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Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/




>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 3:19 PM
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> Subject: Re: Windows 8 Makes Me Consider a Mac
>
>
> Quoting John Coyle <jco...@iinet.net.au>:
>
>> Reviews in our local serious computer magazine, 'Australian Personal 
>> Computer', heartily endorse W8 for tablets, but suggest staying away 
>> from it for desktops, and not highly recommended for laptops.
>> The biggest problem seem to be it is essentially 
>> touchscreen-oriented, and that's an issue with most desktop users - I 
>> certainly would not want to have to stretch out some 60-70cm. to 
>> touch my monitor to make things happen!  It is possible to switch to 
>> the classic interface, but you have to do it on every reboot - it doesn't 
>> stay set.
>
>
>
> Yeah, but third party developers can take care of that problem.
>
> When MS dropped the classic start menu from Win 7 (and unlike Vista 
> didn't allow an option for users to drop back to the classic 
> interface), the absolutely wonderful and free 'Classic Shell' appeared 
> within a matter of months.  I've been using it since I got my Win 7 
> machine and have never needed to look at the bizarre Win 7 menu.
>
> Classic Shell now supports Win 8 so I assume it will enable booting 
> straight to the classic interface in that OS as well.
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
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