For the benefit of those who don't have a copy of Essential Peirce 2, here is the passage referred to by Vinicius Romanini in which Peirce appears to be defining "perfect sign" in such a way as to make it synonymous with "entelechy" (Peirce's emphasis shown here by use of capital letters):
========QUOTE PEIRCE============= Consider then the aggregate formed by a sign and all the signs which its occurrence carries with it. This aggregate will itself be a sign; and we may call it a PERFECT sign, in the sense that it involves the present existence of no other sign except such as are ingredients of itself. Now no perfect sign is in a statical condition: you might as well suppose a portion of matter to remain at rest during a thousandth of a second, or any other long interval of time. The only signs which are tolerably fixed are non-existent abstractions. We cannot deny that such a sign is real; only its mode of reality is not that active kind which we call existence. The existent acts, and whatsoever acts changes. . . . Every real ingredient of the perfect sign is aging, its energy of action upon the interpretant is running low, its sharp edges are wearing down, its outlines becoming more indefinite. On the other hand, the perfect sign is perpetually being acted upon by its object, from which it is perpetually receiving the accretions of new signs, which bring it fresh energy, and also kindle energy that it already had, but which had lain dormant. In addition, the perfect sign never ceases to undergo changes of the kind we rather drolly call SPONTANEOUS, that is, they happen SUA SPONTE [= happens of itself, without assistance] but not by ITS will. They are phenomena of growth. Such perfect sign is a quasi-mind, It is the sheet of assertion of Existential Graphs. . . . This quasi-mind is an object which from whatever standpoint it be examined, must evidently have, like anything else, its special qualities of susceptibility to determination. Moreover, the determinations come as events each one once for all and never again. Furthermore, it must have its rules or laws, the more special ones variable, others invariable. =========END QUOTE================ The above is from MS 283, published in part in Essential Peirce 2 and editorially entitled "The Basis of Pragmaticism in the Normative Sciences". This passage is from a part of that MS not published by the editors but quoted by them in a footnote which appears on p. 545. The context for the footnote in the part of MS 283 that is published is a passage in which he is defining a sign as a "species of medium of communication", which reads as follows: ============QUOTE PEIRCE============== A medium of communication is something, A, which being acted upon by something else, N, in its turn acts upon something, I, in a manner involving its determination by N, so that I shall thereby, through A and only through A, be acted upon by N. We may purposely select a somewhat imperfect example. Namely, one animal, say a mosquito, is acted upon by the entity of a zymotic disease, and in its turn acts upon another animal, to which it communicates the fever. The reason that this example is not perfect is that the active medium is in some measure of the nature of a VEHICLE, which differs from a medium of communication in acting upon the transported object and determining it to a changed location, where, without further interposition of the vehicle, it acts upon, or is acted upon by, the object to which it is conveyed. A sign, on the other hand, just in so far as it fulfills the function of a sign and none other, perfectly conforms to the definition of a medium of communication. It is determined by the object, but in no other respect than goes to enable it to act upon the interpreting quasi-mind other than that of determining it as if the object itself had acted upon it. Thus, after an ordinary conversation, a wonderfully perfect kind of sign functioning, one knows what information or suggestion has been conveyed, but will be utterly unable to say in what words it was conveyed, and often will think it was conveyed in words, when in fact it was only conveyed in tones or in facial expressions. It seems best to regard a sign as a determination of a quasi-mind; for if we regard it as an outward object, and as addressing itself to a human mind, that mind must first apprehend it as object in itself, and only after that consider it in its significance; and the like must happen if the sign addresses itself to any quasi-mind. It must begin by forming a determination of that quasi-mind, and nothing will be lost by regarding that determination as the sign. So, then, it is a determination that really acts upon that of which it is a determination, although GENUINE action is of one thing on another. This perplexes us, and an example of an analogous phenomenon will do good service. Metaphysics has been said contemptuously to be a fabric of metaphors. But not only metaphysics, but logical and phaneroscopical concepts need to be clothed in such garments. For a pure idea without metaphor or other significant clothing is an onion without a peel. ===========END QUOTE=================== And to this passage the editors have footnoted yet another passage from another manuscript (MS 793) which is apparently just an alternative draft of the same provenance as MS 283, which reads as follows: =============QUOTE PEIRCE=============== For the purpose of this inquiry a Sign may be defined as a Medium for the communication of a Form. It is not logically necessary that anything possessing consciousness, that is, feeling of the peculiar common quality of all our feeling, should be concerned. But it is necessary that there should be two, if not three, QUASI-MINDS, meaning things capable of varied determination as to forms of the kind communicated. As a MEDIUM, the Sign is essentially in a triadic relation, to its Object which determines it, and to its Interpretant which it determines. In its relation to the Object, the Sign is PASSIVE; that is to say, its correspondence to the Object is brought about by an effect upon the Sign, the Object remaining unaffected. On the other hand, in its relation to the Interpretant the Sign is ACTIVE, determining the Interpretant without being itself thereby affected. But at this point certain distinctions are called for. That which is communicated from the Object through the Sign to the Interpretant is a Form. It is not a singular thing; for if a singular thing were first in the Object and afterward in the interpretant outside the Object, it must thereby cease to be in the Object. The Form that is communicated does not necessarily cease to be in one thing when it comes to be in a different thing, because its being is a being of the predicate. The Being of a Form consists in the truth of a conditional proposition. Under given circumstances, something would be true. The Form is in the Object, entitatively we may say, meaning that that conditional relation, or following of consequent upon reason, which constitutes the Form, is literally true of the Object. In the Sign the Form may or may not be embodied entitatively, but it must be embodied representatively, that is, in respect to the Form communicated, the Sign produces upon the Interpretant an effect similar to that which the Object itself would under favorable circumstances. =============END QUOTE===================== The above is from MS 793 (1906), which is apparently an alternative draft to MS 283. It is quoted in editorial footnote 22 to "The Basis for Pragmaticism in the Normative Sciences," in EP2, p. 544. The reason for quoting all of this is not to make any particular point of interpretation but rather because of the connections of the idea of entelechy with so many different conceptions of special interest in Peirce that can be found in these passages. My copy of "The Basis for Pragmaticism in the Normative Sciences" in EP2 is too badly marked up to be readable by the OCR program of my scanner or I would scan it and put it up at Arisbe, too, since there seem to be important connections with the New Elements paper. Joe Ransdell ----- Original Message ----- From: "gnusystems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Peirce Discussion Forum" <peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: [peirce-l] Re: Entelechy Vinicius, [[ I think the best definition of Entelechy given by Peirce, done in terms of Semeiosis, can be found in his definition of "Perfect Sign" (EP2: 545, n.25). ]] I see what you mean -- although Peirce doesn't mention the word "entelechy" there, "perfect sign" seems synonymous with it. Janet, I'm relatively new around here myself, so i know it takes awhile to get oriented. Welcome to the list! (I don't recall whether that's been said to you already, but if so, another welcome won't hurt.) [[ I am surprised, however, to see the entrants under "Models and simulations of mind." Aren't the views of Hofstadter, Dennet and Minsky generally at odds with the spirit of rest of your list -- and explicitly at odds with Damasio, Lakoff, Maturana and Varela, Rosen, and Wittgenstein of the Philosophical Investigations? ]] No more at odds than the latter group are among themselves, if you allow for some major differences in focus and idiom. But i have to admit that i don't find much of interest in Dennett or Minsky nowadays. They were central to my reading and thinking 25 years ago (before the others that you mention appeared on my horizon), but much more peripheral now. I put them on the list because i think much of what i learned from them is still valid; and in Hofstadter's case, because my work in progress still draws upon his concepts of "tangled hierarchy" and "strange loops" and (especially) his modeling of the creative process. Besides, Hofstadter was quick to pick up on the emerging concepts of chaos and complexity. Actually, if i had to list those who are most out of step with the rest of the list, i'd name Pinker, Dawkins, Koch and Crick. But they still have a place there, if only because i think that any point on which they agree with the others can be assumed to have very broad support, simply because the supporters are so diverse. But really i'd rather not speak as glibly of these folks as i have here, as if i could fit each one neatly into some mental pigeonhole. Each one of us is a whole world. We are worlds in conversation, turning still. Sometimes we spin in synchrony and sometimes we don't. When we do, we have structural coupling, as Maturana and Varela called it. And when we don't, we may have a chance to learn something new. gary F. }The simple fact is that no measurement, no experiment or observation is possible without a relevant theoretical framework. [D.S. 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