Actually Carrol, I think in Melvin's theory the "technically" unemployed and
under employed play a significant role in revolution.  It was really
fascinating, you should read it if you have not already.

LS


on 10/10/2002 7:34 PM, Carrol Cox at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
>> "Devine, James" wrote:
>> 
>> Thiago writes:
>>> there also is an issue here about what it means to be unemployed
>>> these days. It doesn't necessarily mean one is not working: [clip]
>> 
>> I think it's useful to keep unemployment _per se_ (as with the
>> official definitions) separate from these near-unemployments.
> 
> I haven't followed this thread at all yet but have merely shuffled the
> posts off into a separate Netscape folder for reading some other day.
> But the fact that it has aroused passions is, in itself, an exhibition
> of either bad political thinking or simply apolitical thinking. (As
> almost every single post I have read on energy or ecology for the past
> three years has been apolitical -- i.e., utterly detached from any
> conception whatever of how the information provided could be embodied in
> an actual mass working-class movement.)
> 
> Unemployment figures prove nothing politically whatsoever, nor can it
> make any political difference if those figures are correct or incorrect.
> Endless agonizing and polemics over the correctness or incorrectness of
> unemployment figures could only come (as Michael Hoover suggested) from
> those who have been cut off (or never connected to) concrete political
> practice. The result is that politics shrinks to the petty proportions
> of winning or losing a rhetorical battle on a maillist.
> 
> Carrol
> 

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