Am 31.03.2014 19:26, schrieb Pau Peris:
> i really do not know what to answer to you about your last email.
> 
> Anyway, as i understand envelope sender is where a computer are going to 
> respond an email, if needed, and the from
> header is where people reply emails. If i'm wrong just an explanation will 
> suffice.
> 
> That said, i'm still wondering - and i do not know if anyone here is able to 
> answer - why Mozilla Thunderbird or
> Roundcube get rejected when Editing the From address - at least it looks to 
> me the From address and not the
> envelope sender

there is no "looks to me"

From: Pau Peris <p...@webeloping.es>
Sender: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org
Return-Path: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org

above the headers of your message, the "Return-Path" is the envelope

> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Viktor Dukhovni <postfix-us...@dukhovni.org 
> <mailto:postfix-us...@dukhovni.org>>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 05:52:33PM +0200, Pau Peris wrote:
>>
>> > thanks a lot for your time and the great explanation, but i think that's
>> > not what i'm looking for.
>> >
>> > What i'm trying to accomplish is to make sure the from address used in the
>> > envelope is the same address used to login. I don't mind if they use a
>> > different reply to address or something similar.
>>
>> Well, your previous post sure seemed to imply that you wanted to restrict
>> the From: address in the message header.  Do you know what the term
>> "envelope sender address" means in SMTP?  I think not.
>>
>> > I thought smtpd_sender_login_maps plus reject_unlisted_sender and
>> > reject_authenticated_sender_login_mismatch would do the trick but there's a
>> > case where login address is the same as the sender address - at least
>> > that's what it looks like after checking the mail.log - but once i get the
>> > email at Google Apps i notice the From header belongs to the forged address
>> > edited through the Identity edit form which AfterLogic Webmail provides.
>>
>> There you go again, talking about the header From.  MAKE UP YOUR MIND!
>>
>> > What i would like is to reject the email when the from address has been
>> > edited.
>> >
>> > I hope you can help me to get a clue here.
>>
>> First understand that the SMTP envelope sender address is NOT the
>> same thing as the message header From: address

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